Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

[i love you]

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Ah, totally misread his question. Yeah, the admins should really take a look at that link to see if they actually wanted that link to be public or not. If so, they should make it visible somewhere in the FFR Game Stats.

Reminder: You guys have about 38 more hours to turn in your outlines!

[Netjet!]

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Ah, totally misread his question. Yeah, the admins should really take a look at that link to see if they actually wanted that link to be public or not. If so, they should make it visible somewhere in the FFR Game Stats.

Reminder: You guys have about 38 more hours to turn in your outlines!

I'll ask and see if they want to put it in the dropdown bar labeled "FFR The Game".

[SkRAWRk]

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Hmmmm, so we're down to about 25 hours for outlines. Have you had any others yet, i love you? :O

[i love you]

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So far, I have received two more outlines. Hopefully, I will be able to get a few more by other people hehe

[Emithith]

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http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/....php?level=959
I'm dying XD

o_o wow. Dossar, wtf. Not cool.

[remedy1502]

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oh my god that dp levelstats lmfao

[yo man im awesome]

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*raises hand without reading thread*

How about we have a raw score TP bar and a combo based TP bar? That way people with laggy as shit computers have some chance at getting TP's. Also, maybe have the ability to choose which of the two bars shows.

[emulord]

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I disagree with raw scoring, because if I wanted PA based scoring, Id play stepmania. On multiplayer its fine, but having tier points be based off of a different scoring mechanism isnt as good a indicator of FFR skill

[remedy1502]

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I mash everything and don't even try on hard songs

fix'd

[emulord]

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dude, I *cannot* PA hard songs. I do try later, but my mashed scores just show up on top

[i love you]

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I disagree with raw scoring, because if I wanted PA based scoring, Id play stepmania. On multiplayer its fine, but having tier points be based off of a different scoring mechanism isnt as good a indicator of FFR skill

Well think about this for example:

Say if Person A Full Combos Reality with 100 goods and Person B gets 10 goods with a miss or two. With combo scoring, Person A would get more Tier Points than Person B because Person A has a higher combo than Person B. This will not be an accurate way to determine FFR skill because it puts emphasis on combo FIRST before the overall score. With raw scoring, it will clearly show that Person B has more skill than Person A because it puts more emphasis on PA therefore Person B will be awarded more points than Person A. This would be a more accurate way to determine FFR skill and plus, it would discourage mashed Full Combos.

At first, we were going to do it the way you said because of what we have mentioned in one of the FAQ but the majority of the community wants this to be done by raw scoring and so that is what we are going to do. The statement you made saying that raw scoring will not be a good indicator of FFR skill is false. It is a better indicator of skill than combo based scoring and the example I have provided proves that statement.

[Izzy]

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That's exactly the point, if you just look at the raw score of the best score someone has, some people will get the PA they deserve and some won't, and that's just not fair.

Recording the best raw score on each song is one of the ways to get rid of combo scoring, but the admins don't want to do it because it would require adding another column to the high score database (= a lot of work).

I don't feel like it is a lot of work, it is just a lot of data. Either way it is hugely important that this happens because combo scoring is a pitiful way to determine the best score on a song.

dude, I *cannot* PA hard songs. I do try later, but my mashed scores just show up on top

'But they wouldn't if it was based on raw scoring, this is a good thing.

[emulord]

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No, its like. I can FC with 50 goods, or not FC with 40 goods. Its never that big of a deal. I dont understand how some people can go from 200 goods to 20 with a miss.
Requiring a FC for a good score is the only thing that makes this rhythm game unique. Please dont remove it.

[Izzy]

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I dont understand how some people can go from 200 goods to 20 with a miss.

Because you change your whole mentality when you play without the fear of missing. I could get amazing PA on FGO's with a couple of misses or I can mash it all and avoid the miss. With raw scoring I would be able to show my true ability on difficult songs.

Requiring a FC for a good score is the only thing that makes this rhythm game unique. Please dont remove it.

That doesn't mean it is good, combo scoring is a massively flawed idea and needs to be removed.

[i love you]

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I think you are confused emulord, we are not removing combo based scoring from FFR the game, we are just creating an accurate ranking system to determine ones skill by making it based off raw scoring.