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  • Poptronix
    Banned
    • Sep 2011
    • 82

    #16
    Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

    Originally posted by Shaydow
    The fun would be in the challange you presented YOURSELF based on the difficulty that was even ACROSS the board. The fun is in new SONGS, have we all forgotten that half the point of this game is the MUSIC?! Sorry, I love reading the pattern and making my old broken hands try to do them, but I am here for the MUSIC, and I am here to FEEL LIKE I AM PLAYING THAT MUSIC WITH 4 NOTES. It is the same reason I play Rock band, or Patapon. The MUSIC and the RHYTHM, NOT mindless " I have to turn off the music just to try to follow this because the steps are so off ". Look at my AAA record, notice I still have PLENTY on 3 - 8's NOT AAA, even though a LOT of them are. Why? Because those songs are FUN, I enjoy the SONG, AND, I enjoy the steps that go along with those songs, letting me feel like I am actually PLAYING the song, that I am interacting with it, not just " trying to keep up ". I have NO problem with FFR evolving, not one bit. Again I restate, I DO have a problem with MANY of the songs within each difficulty category being VASTLY different to one another. I do not even have any qualms with " Hard " songs, none at all, but only when they are in the correct difficulty level for that song.

    Use offset if you think the music syncing is off with the arrow syncing.

    Technically speaking, FFR evolves with its music so you DO have a problem with the new step era.

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    • hi19hi19
      lol happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #17
      Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

      Originally posted by Shaydow
      The fun would be in the challange you presented YOURSELF based on the difficulty that was even ACROSS the board. The fun is in new SONGS, have we all forgotten that half the point of this game is the MUSIC?! Sorry, I love reading the pattern and making my old broken hands try to do them, but I am here for the MUSIC, and I am here to FEEL LIKE I AM PLAYING THAT MUSIC WITH 4 NOTES. It is the same reason I play Rock band, or Patapon. The MUSIC and the RHYTHM, NOT mindless " I have to turn off the music just to try to follow this because the steps are so off ". Look at my AAA record, notice I still have PLENTY on 3 - 8's NOT AAA, even though a LOT of them are. Why? Because those songs are FUN, I enjoy the SONG, AND, I enjoy the steps that go along with those songs, letting me feel like I am actually PLAYING the song, that I am interacting with it, not just " trying to keep up ". I have NO problem with FFR evolving, not one bit. Again I restate, I DO have a problem with MANY of the songs within each difficulty category being VASTLY different to one another. I do not even have any qualms with " Hard " songs, none at all, but only when they are in the correct difficulty level for that song.
      Brevity is the soul of wit, brother.

      Originally posted by Translation
      I enjoy the music of FFR just as much as the stepfile. Some stepfiles feel "off" from the music and this gets in the way of my enjoying the song.

      There are some easier files I still play despite having AAA'd them. I do this because I enjoy the song and the steps seem to feel right for me.

      I do not mind that FFR is evolving. My main complaint is not specifically about hard files, but rather that the range of challenge within each difficulty level is too broad.


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      • psychoangel691
        Retired Staff
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2004
        • 10438

        #18
        Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

        Originally posted by Shaydow
        The fun would be in the challange you presented YOURSELF based on the difficulty that was even ACROSS the board. The fun is in new SONGS, have we all forgotten that half the point of this game is the MUSIC?! Sorry, I love reading the pattern and making my old broken hands try to do them, but I am here for the MUSIC, and I am here to FEEL LIKE I AM PLAYING THAT MUSIC WITH 4 NOTES. It is the same reason I play Rock band, or Patapon. The MUSIC and the RHYTHM, NOT mindless " I have to turn off the music just to try to follow this because the steps are so off ". Look at my AAA record, notice I still have PLENTY on 3 - 8's NOT AAA, even though a LOT of them are. Why? Because those songs are FUN, I enjoy the SONG, AND, I enjoy the steps that go along with those songs, letting me feel like I am actually PLAYING the song, that I am interacting with it, not just " trying to keep up ". I have NO problem with FFR evolving, not one bit. Again I restate, I DO have a problem with MANY of the songs within each difficulty category being VASTLY different to one another. I do not even have any qualms with " Hard " songs, none at all, but only when they are in the correct difficulty level for that song.

        No reason to get so upset I was merely pointing out that the same things over and over would get boring. The charts do represent the music it's just representing multiple parts of the music. I don't know if you're quite getting across what it is you're upset about. One minute it's about the difficulties being so vast, which I agree with I'd rather we had a scale of fifty or even 100 difficulties. But then you complain that charts have too much going on in them and that you don't like hands or this or that which is just evolution in stepcharting in general. Most times hands represent a loud sound in the song like a loud cymbal crash. If you truly listen to the music you'll understand what the stepartist is layering in and that it does follow the music.

        I should also point out that we can't only cater to the casual players. There are a lot of players of all diff skill levels. This just goes along with charts in general, not the difficulty system being screwy. ffr has been around for a long time, we need some way to provide new challenges for people.
        Last edited by psychoangel691; 09-9-2011, 01:45 PM.
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        • Poptronix
          Banned
          • Sep 2011
          • 82

          #19
          Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

          We used hands ever since life started, just saying. FFR pooped out charts from SM, and SM has been using them from the beginning.

          So it's completely normal.

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          • ninjaKIWI
            plain old ugly ass dumbas
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 3304

            #20
            Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

            Originally posted by Shaydow
            The fun would be in the challange you presented YOURSELF based on the difficulty that was even ACROSS the board. The fun is in new SONGS, have we all forgotten that half the point of this game is the MUSIC?! Sorry, I love reading the pattern and making my old broken hands try to do them, but I am here for the MUSIC, and I am here to FEEL LIKE I AM PLAYING THAT MUSIC WITH 4 NOTES. It is the same reason I play Rock band, or Patapon. The MUSIC and the RHYTHM, NOT mindless " I have to turn off the music just to try to follow this because the steps are so off ". Look at my AAA record, notice I still have PLENTY on 3 - 8's NOT AAA, even though a LOT of them are. Why? Because those songs are FUN, I enjoy the SONG, AND, I enjoy the steps that go along with those songs, letting me feel like I am actually PLAYING the song, that I am interacting with it, not just " trying to keep up ". I have NO problem with FFR evolving, not one bit. Again I restate, I DO have a problem with MANY of the songs within each difficulty category being VASTLY different to one another. I do not even have any qualms with " Hard " songs, none at all, but only when they are in the correct difficulty level for that song.
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            • Xx{Midnight}xX
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2007
              • 8548

              #21
              Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

              Originally posted by hi19hi19
              If you aren't enjoying the new files, don't play them.
              If you don't enjoy people's opinions don't read them

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              • icontrolyourworld
                Enjoy life!
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2007
                • 4193

                #22
                Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                the obvious solution is to start playing easier difficulty files

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                • psychoangel691
                  Retired Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 10438

                  #23
                  Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                  Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                  If you don't enjoy people's opinions don't read them
                  If you can't contribute anything constructive to the thread don't post. <3
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                  also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
                  Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                  Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

                  Originally posted by hi19hi19
                  yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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                  • Poptronix
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 82

                    #24
                    Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                    <- this


                    Play easier songs if you can. If you jump to harder songs and start complaining, then something is obviously wrong.

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                    • Shaydow
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 162

                      #25
                      Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      If you aren't enjoying the new files, don't play them.

                      Apparently this is a GAME that people play CASUALLY and just for FUN but not SERIOUS but yet they still HAVE to ENJOY every single LEVEL as if it was CUSTOM made FOR them?
                      ALTERNATING caps


                      EDIT- lest I sound too much like an ass, there is some good feedback hidden in that block of text. Be more specific with what "trills and jump patterns" you don't like, and I know many simfile artists will pay close attention. Me included. Constructive, specific, and concise feedback is appreciated more than you might think. TLDR rants that say nothing are ignored more than you might think.
                      Your attack on the way I present myself seems a little off putting, but since I am a fair man I will try to explain. I type in the same way I talk in real life, so basically every word in all caps is a word I would have stressed or emphasized if I was talking to you in person. It is hard online with text to show just what words you would stress with a different vocal in real life, I have adapted a way I feel gets my point across on the internet. Also, it was NOT a block of text, it was well formatted and well thought out.

                      Now, to get to the rest, you are correct. Not every song is catered to me, and I will not enjoy every song / stepfile released in game. No argument from me there. My problem is with how vastly different each song within the same category is becoming. If it is a 10, and stepped like all 10's before it, why would I even say anything? Yet when it is a 10 that FEELS like a 12, then there is something I am unhappy with, and it is not just the song, or hell even its steps, it is where the song ended up that bothers me.
                      " Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
                      Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
                      To the last syllable of recorded time,
                      And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
                      The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
                      Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
                      That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
                      And then is heard no more: it is a tale
                      Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
                      Signifying nothing. " ~ W.S

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                      • Poptronix
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 82

                        #26
                        Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                        Your solution is to get better. Good day.


                        Here's your prescription, I wrote:


                        4 hours of Stepmania once every 3 hours. Take 3 per day.


                        Make sure you don't miss a day or you won't feel any better.

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                        • krunkykai22
                          &lt;3 Jumpstream &lt;3
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 5436

                          #27
                          Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                          Actually, my solution, being the better one, would be to instead deal with it. This problem has occurred over and over buddy, and nothing has ever happened.

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                          • One Winged Angel
                            Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 10837

                            #28
                            Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                            I don't want this to sound elitist or whatever it may come off as, but I really haven't noticed the 'supposed' recent increase in difficulty within each boundary for new files being added to the game...aside from the obvious addition of hands in lower-level songs (which I really don't think are that big of a deal, it's refreshing to see hands in a 7 or 8 every once in a while)

                            That being said, it's obvious almost everyone else seems to believe otherwise, so perhaps something should be done.

                            Then again, completely eliminating difficulty spikes for all future files would be retarded, and bumping up the difficulty of the song to match the file's hardest 'section' would also be quite foolish........eh


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                            • Shaydow
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 162

                              #29
                              Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                              I know the majority of arguments to this thread are NOT this way, so please do not think I am talking to you personally when I say this . . . .

                              Anyone who says " just get better " has NO understanding of what I am talking about, and has not used the brain they were born with. You may THINK your clever, but your really not, and make yourself look like a fool with comments like that.
                              " Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
                              Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
                              To the last syllable of recorded time,
                              And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
                              The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
                              Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
                              That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
                              And then is heard no more: it is a tale
                              Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
                              Signifying nothing. " ~ W.S

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                              • Poptronix
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 82

                                #30
                                Re: Dear Stepfile Artists,

                                Originally posted by Shaydow
                                I know the majority of arguments to this thread are NOT this way, so please do not think I am talking to you personally when I say this . . . .

                                Anyone who says " just get better " has NO understanding of what I am talking about, and has not used the brain they were born with. You may THINK your clever, but your really not, and make yourself look like a fool with comments like that.
                                Oh, I guess I'm just dumb.
                                I'm kinda stating a fact. The more you get better the less complaints.

                                Focus on the thread please, you aren't accomplishing anything with the way you're posting.

                                OT: This is merely the opinion of someone who casually plays this game. If you complain about something being so hard, just get better at it. If you think that a 9 should be a 10 and a 10 as a 12 then that's your own problem. Once you get better you wouldn't complain about difficulties.

                                Seriously, you think everyone's been getting their skill handed to them on a plate? Everyone's been playing and playing to get better, and there are a lot of people who used to be in D1 are now D4+ in less than a year.
                                Most of these difficulties (on the newly released songs) are subjective anyways, just play the damn file, like shiet.
                                Last edited by Poptronix; 09-9-2011, 02:18 PM.

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