New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

[bmah]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

****. Seriously bmah? I'd say it was a low FMO, but because of that right hand trill right about at the 900 Arrow mark I automatically think it's almost an FGO.
Also, yeah, It's almost AAA-able without worrying about the right hand trill there.

Please don't give me attitude because you suck at a certain pattern. WORK ON IT.
There are many other places in the file which I thought were harder, and so obviously the difficulty isn't experienced in the same way for everyone. The difficulty is overall fairly even.
edit: alright, gotcha Emithith

I have been told that people often tend to complain on a song these days not because of the file itself, but because they can't perform well on it. I appreciate those who can make comments and suggestions past their own abilities to perform on a song. On a related note, I can appreciate Metro despite failing at it pretty badly.

Bad scores on both JULIA and JULIAN because I can't not get a lag run. They both seem like pretty generic files to me, nothing special about them. I like the beginning of JULIAN with the 64ths, but other than that, lame files. The songs are bad and annoying IMO, but I've never been a fan of Cranky.

My response to these comments is pretty much the same every time: show me better.
Similar to what jx has said before: you should go into more detail about your opinions, otherwise it's hard to take them seriously. Besides Cranky songs themselves, what exactly about the files seem generic? Can you actually answer that question? etc.

[Emithith]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

Please don't give me attitude because you suck at a certain pattern. WORK ON IT.
There are many other places in the file which I thought were harder, and so obviously the difficulty isn't experienced in the same way for everyone. The difficulty is overall fairly even.

didn't intend on attitude, more of a bit glad that people are still able to make me feel a little bit of challenge, when I've pretty much found all 11/12s easy to read/hit

edit: I see now that the post came out differently than intended. sorry bmah. :/

[Ziergdsx18]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

haters h9ng on bmah's file sCK

[ninjaKIWI]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

Similar to what jx has said before: you should go into more detail about your opinions, otherwise it's hard to take them seriously. Besides Cranky songs themselves, what exactly about the files seem generic? Can you actually answer that question? etc.

I was merely saying that I don't understand all of the hype about the files, as they seem extremely generic to me. No, I can't really say what seems generic. What do you want me to point out? "That sixteenth pattern is over used" No. There just didn't seem to be anything special about the files.

My response to these comments is pretty much the same every time: show me better.

Probably the dumbest response possible to any critique. I can't sing, does that mean that I can't point out generic artists? I can't dance, does that mean I can't point out lame dancers? No. That's just ridiculous. I might not be able to step files, but as a player I can certainly tell when a file is good. However objective the quality of a file may be.

[bmah]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

Missed the point entirely. Look over the semantics and see the bigger picture.

The point is that some people can't seem to appreciate the amount of effort it takes to make these files. Some people just whine and complain. How about giving back for once?

Consider 5 years ago when song releases were far more infrequent. I think people take simfiles for granted far more than in the past. I remember when Synthlight posted 6 new songs with releases spaced months apart. It's a reminder that you should post with a bit more thought and care into it, whether it's praise or criticism. That's my request please.

It's easy to go all irrational when you're disappointed with the song/steps, but then again, what makes this site in the first place? Yeah, we're spoiled.

[ninjaKIWI]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

Missed the point entirely.

The point is that some people can't seem to appreciate the amount of effort it takes to make these files. Some people just whine and complain. How about giving back for once?

Consider 5 years ago when song releases were far more infrequent. I think people take simfiles for granted far more than in the past.

That point didn't come across at all in your previous post. I understand, and I definitely do appreciate the files. This is probably the first time in quite a while I've posted a negative comment about a file on FFR. Just with all of the hype and love for these files I was disappointed, is all I'm saying.

[bassCannon]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

The trill isn't really "Fast", it's another It's Only Natural Scenario (easy to hit, hard to AAA)

nothing's too fast for you roy

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

Well the trill in Julia is similar to the ones in World Tour - World Tour has some "slow" color note one handed trills.

[kommisar]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

ah, metro. the song that got rejected 3 times with reason.

I'm sorry dosslar but I really couldn't bring myself to like that file

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

A legit reason would've been nice :monkey:

[bassCannon]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

lol the 16ths are fine

but i think the 32nd/48ths were bit hardcore (at 300 bpm? cmon)

but then again that's why metro is a 12+

[qqwref]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

They're all pretty standard patterns though (24ths, short rolls, 48th gallops), the only difference is that they are at 300bpm. Keep in mind, all 8th jacks at that bpm are 3-framers, and there's actually only one 2-framer (or less) in the entire song, on a tricky 24th pattern. So the difficulty is pretty even throughout, although some parts are harder to read than others.

[stavie33]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

This. Be grateful it's not as aggressive as Sonata's or Kyrie's trill.

Those are way easier because they aren't ONE HANDED. How many times have I said that I'm EXTREMELY bad at one handed trills? I can't even FC Little God Channel without mashing because my hands can't keep up one-handed trills. I had to index a lot of songs with one handed trills to AAA, and for this one I can't because it immediately goes into bursts.

[Emithith]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

The point is that some people can't seem to appreciate the amount of effort it takes to make these files. Some people just whine and complain.

I actually agree with this. Just cause there's a trill at the end of a song that you can't hit doesn't mean it's a bad song. Just means you need to work harder to hit it. If that's what will change your opinion on a song, then indeed we are very spoiled.

Those are way easier because they aren't ONE HANDED. How many times have I said that I'm EXTREMELY bad at one handed trills? I can't even FC Little God Channel without mashing because my hands can't keep up one-handed trills. I had to index a lot of songs with one handed trills to AAA, and for this one I can't because it immediately goes into bursts.

lol I understand this too, I don't know if it's cause I am a left-handed player, and it's a right handed trill, but it is way harder for me to hit.
I guess Mirror would be a good idea, but w/e. I have JULIAN now.

[stavie33]

Re: New Songs: August 8th, 2011 - New Skill Tokens!

Also, what's the BPM on Metro? From TC's video, it looks easier than Eclipse (Solar), or around it's difficulty. Unless it's higher than 240 BPM, I don't get it.