New Songs: July 29th, 2011

[TC_Halogen]

Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

it should be taken seriously because people are getting upset over files that are needed on FFR; a lot of files currently in-game take too basic of an approach on structure and players are expecting these types of files in game because it's what they feel is good. It's the start of narrowing down what is known as a "good" simfile. Look at the ITG community - when the game started and was rolling, everyone was trying out many different kinds of files. Now, outside of r21freak, which is an incredibly small community, everyone seems to want to play nothing but really hard files, with C-Mods (mind you, something that ORIGINALLY disqualified scores) to get as high of a score as possible. People have even gone as far as modding their machines to make constant modifiers legal.

tl;dr: trying to constrain files based off of subjective factors like pattern choice and layering is a slow rolling start to becoming incredibly plain, boring, and predictable. This shouldn't even be an ongoing argument - people should be happy that they're even getting songs in the first place. Now, there's this implied complacency because everyone figures "oh, there will be more next week."

[pmonibuv1]

Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

Can we just play the game and respect others? Owait it's the internet. Lawl.

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Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

Okay honestly, I do not even know why something like this is being taken so seriously lmao

cuz ffr is serious business

[igotrhythm]

Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

It's pretty funny that someone mistaked 12 bar bloops for a bmah file because we do have a similar style. I really really like bmah's charts as well. But the thing is, I don't have much of a say in the stepping process when I make a chart. In my opinion it's up to me to decide what parts of the song to follow, and the rest plays itself out. Lots of songs have huge difficulty spikes because music is built to climax on certain measures over and over. I'm not trying to make difficulty spikes, I'm following what is already there. I probably spent about 30-40 hours total working on this file because I wanted to make sure I was following what was already there. Note placement is completely determined by what actual notes are being played in the song. If you hear the same frequency twice it's going to be on the same arrow unless I've intentionally permuted it because it's occurring in a different measure than normal.

The handjack section is the B part to a song that does an A B A structure, as soon as the first lead melody section ends, the song totally changes and there is nothing else to follow but what I want for. The tone of the song also gets much more evil and serious, so of course the chart should be getting harder there.

It sounds like a bunch of people want boring stream files over and over and most music actually doesn't do that.




I kept working on it for a while after it was submitted because I still wasn't happy with it. The version I have in SM now has even more changes actually, but it's still not really 'done' imo.

AP, that was me, and I've been summarily chewed out by Zierg and Bmah for it.

I still like how you had the handjack section end with "Stop that" in the song during a pause. It's almost like the song is telling the player to stop quad-mashing, which is a thoroughly amusing concept.

I can totally accept that files can be made to be hard/easy, and we should celebrate this instead of condemn it...even in the case of Xandertrax, who has proven himself the king of technical patterns. The color shift in the trill for Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia actually does go with the sound file, even. (The reason people like yawn-inducing stream like Delirium is because then they don't have to work as hard for the FC/AAA, I would venture.)

[G.S.M]

Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

that 10 is fking hard

decent songs though

[jimerax]

Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

I only complain about charts because of how strict the judging process is - after so much judging and such high point requirements, I expect a lot. So whenever the one really difficult file in a week is stepped poorly, I'm very disappointed.

Considering like 40% of submitted files are accepted, I don't think it's not that strict.
You know any file can't please everyone, especially people who're picky on files.

Also, once a file has been accepted, there's really no oversight on changes. This is also a problem with the current system.

If the file has certain level of quality, simfile author's intentions are given priority over judge's comments unless it has things that can definitely be fixed quite objectively. Otherwise, forcing the author of accepted files to fix all minor issues is basically overdone.

In this case, 12bb file has enough quality and and features in the file are overall acceptable imo.
Overall I see more positive opinions than negative ones about the file, I think it's quite unique and enjoyable too.
I've got fixed dwi from ap a few times after it's accepted (minor changes though).

[FFR4EVA_00]

Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

12 bar bloops is the best 12 in the game
i will not participate in further discussion because you guys are bad at all forms of communication

[TC_Halogen]

Re: New Songs: July 29th, 2011

This thread was dead for two weeks - notes about the file will more than likely be subjective and will cause drama, and actual suggestions about the rating/structure of the file can be put in the In-Game Song Information thread.