My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

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  • stavie33
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 1925

    #1

    My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

    Hammy did it, so why can't I? So, a long time ago I submitted a file that got +'d by every judge, and generally positive reviews from peers. It made it to Tass, who then in turn said the file was perfectly fine, but the reason for not allowing the song in the game was:

    Originally posted by Tasselfag
    ultimate drum set solo of crap - no to song because I hate drum solo's, since they have no rhythm (melody dip****). file is fun, but not amazing.
    Judge's Reviews:

    Kommisar:

    Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom (stavie33) [+.]
    m12: mirror the second roll and jack
    the cymbal hits on their own in m29/m31 shouldn't be hands
    yellow jumps in m40 should be purple
    good file?

    JX:

    Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom 2.0 (stavie33) [+ / 6.5] (11)
    audible, besides hand placement and sync at parts it's ok

    Patashu:

    OrangeInferno - Ultimate Drum Solo of Doom (+) 6.5/10
    -jacks leading to the 2nd roll in m12 are a little much. should probably put the jacks on the other side
    -duno about the hands if they're tolerated for the difficulty but they're fine i guess.
    -m25 is an odd transition feels empty but fine i guess


    Just to say, the file is better than most of the crap that got in that queue, if you don't believe me, I'll send it to you to check out, and the file, the drum solo is pretty sweet,

    Petition:

    stavie33
    orangeinferno
    MasteroftheTaco
    Last edited by stavie33; 11-9-2009, 10:09 PM.
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  • Dr Tran
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 1134

    #2
    Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

    since you released your file to the public it is no longer in consideration to be added to ffr the game gj job

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    • stavie33
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2006
      • 1925

      #3
      Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

      Originally posted by Dr Tran
      since you released your file to the public it is no longer in consideration to be added to ffr the game gj job
      fix'd thanks
      It's getting better all the time
      I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
      The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
      You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
      Turning me round (Oh Oh)
      Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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      • Dr Tran
        Banned
        • Aug 2008
        • 1134

        #4
        Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

        file is barely a vc at its hardest so hands and quads should be taken out

        even thought this is a drum solo there is pr that needs to be incorporated when the tom toms change pitch and its repetative

        if i were a judge i wouldnt accept this file because its boring and the song is horrible and its not even a good drum solo so sorru you dont have my support

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        • EnR
          Massive flaming dildos.
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2007
          • 8431

          #5
          Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

          FYI, +. isn't +'d.
          sigpic

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          • stavie33
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2006
            • 1925

            #6
            Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

            Originally posted by Dr Tran
            file is barely a vc at its hardest so hands and quads should be taken out

            even thought this is a drum solo there is pr that needs to be incorporated when the tom toms change pitch and its repetative

            if i were a judge i wouldnt accept this file because its boring and the song is horrible and its not even a good drum solo so sorru you dont have my support
            Thanks :/

            You write, and then PLAY a better drum solo. And from what JX told me, PR is fine, and the patterns fit the sheet music as best as could be done. Low VC at most? What? What do you know about a files difficulty? This is way harder than half the low FMO's, it's harder than Hajnal, Novo Mundo, and Choprite, all of which are FMO's, even JX put it as an FMO in the judging, you may know more about making files, but not about their difficulty /rant

            Sorry, it's just that barely a VC is a beyond retarded statement.
            It's getting better all the time
            I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
            The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
            You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
            Turning me round (Oh Oh)
            Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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            • stavie33
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 1925

              #7
              Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

              What I don't get is these few things:

              Only people on FFR have ever said it sucks (and considering some of the **** on here, why should we trust half of them?), but it got me into AYP and I won many music awards in my state competitions for composing and playing this solo. It takes more talent to play this than the drums in Pull me Under or YYZ. No, I'm not anywhere near (not even a thousandth) as good as Mike Portney or Niel Pert, but this is by no means a crappy or weak drum solo. If you don't like it, that's fine, but to say it's bad/crap is just not true when looking at it from a rhythmic/difficult point of view. I'm not sure how many of you actually play drums beyond rockband, but those who do will most likely back me up on this.

              Robertsona back in the day said the file was very fun and better than many files accepted that batch, even JX and Patashu rated it 6.5, higher than the **** that is grind2, and the same as many files that got accepted such as Ivaltek and Half Symphony.

              Patashu gave me +:

              OrangeInferno - Ultimate Drum Solo of Doom (+) 6.5/10
              -jacks leading to the 2nd roll in m12 are a little much. should probably put the jacks on the other side
              -duno about the hands if they're tolerated for the difficulty but they're fine i guess.
              -m25 is an odd transition feels empty but fine i guess
              Last edited by stavie33; 11-9-2009, 10:11 PM.
              It's getting better all the time
              I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
              The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
              You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
              Turning me round (Oh Oh)
              Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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              • Dr Tran
                Banned
                • Aug 2008
                • 1134

                #8
                Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                Originally posted by stavie33
                Thanks :/

                You write, and then PLAY a better drum solo. And from what JX told me, PR is fine, and the patterns fit the sheet music as best as could be done. Low VC at most? What? What do you know about a files difficulty? This is way harder than half the low FMO's, it's harder than Hajnal, Novo Mundo, and Choprite, all of which are FMO's, even JX put it as an FMO in the judging, you may know more about making files, but not about their difficulty /rant

                Sorry, it's just that barely a VC is a beyond retarded statement.
                pr may be fine by ffr standards but dont lower the bar on yourself at least go for the best you can and not the bare minimum. there is no way this file is harder than any of the fmos you listead except for choprite but thats only because choprite doesnt have long jacks. the only ONLY reason jx gave this file an fmo rating was because of the hands and quads because the jumpstream is really simple and the only thing that would give anyone trouble is the jacks and theyre right hand and only at 150bpm and what i ment by barely vc was that it isnt any harder than a high vc lol my bad there guess i shouldve worded that better.

                Originally posted by stavie33
                What I don't get is these few things:

                Only people on FFR have ever said it sucks (and considering some of the **** on here, why should we trust half of them?), but it got me into AYP and I won many music awards in my state competitions for composing and playing this solo. It takes more talent to play this than the drums in Pull me Under or YYZ. No, I'm not anywhere near (not even a thousandth) as good as Mike Portney or Niel Pert, but this is by no means a crappy or weak drum solo. If you don't like it, that's fine, but to say it's bad/crap is just not true when looking at it from a rhythmic/difficult point of view. I'm not sure how many of you actually play drums beyond rockband, but those who do will most likely back me up on this.

                Robertsona back in the day said the file was very fun and better than many files accepted that batch, even JX and Patashu rated it 6.5, higher than the **** that is grind2, and the same as many files that got accepted such as Ivaltek and Half Symphony.

                Patashu gave me +:

                OrangeInferno - Ultimate Drum Solo of Doom (+) 6.5/10
                -jacks leading to the 2nd roll in m12 are a little much. should probably put the jacks on the other side
                -duno about the hands if they're tolerated for the difficulty but they're fine i guess.
                -m25 is an odd transition feels empty but fine i guess
                the fact that you used an daw instead of recording yourself playing is what makes it sound so ****ty not so much the composition. and a 6.5 is a D+ good job ?_? like i said ffr has much much much lower standards in terms of file quality so dont get all happy because you got an accept with some fixes and an accept for a file thats going to be going into ffr.


                lol you listened to robertsona

                i will say it again. this version being made using a daw or some other audio production software is really ****ty and of poor quality. i do not play drums so i dont know how difficult this is to play or whether or not you're pulling all that competition **** out of your ass just to validate what you say. but i do know what sounds good and that drum solo how it is in the mp3 is not good

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                • Dr Tran
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 1134

                  #9
                  Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                  my standards are much higher than that of ffr which is why i wouldve rejected had i been a judge

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                  • Patashu
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 8609

                    #10
                    Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                    ummm

                    that judgment can't be mine b/c I never gave out numerical ratings
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                    • stargroup
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 974

                      #11
                      Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                      oh snap

                      btw I'm pretty sure the reason it's not being accepted is because the name suggests that the song isn't very serious

                      I'd love to meet the organization that gave a state-level award for composing a song with this name. seriously, give us some sources

                      finally, the reason hammy could make a petition is because hammy had a legit reason. you, quite frankly, don't.
                      (´・ω・`)

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                      • dood gone krazee
                        RATOOOOOOOOO
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • May 2007
                        • 1939

                        #12
                        Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                        This happened ages ago, why the hell are you bringing it up now? And even then, its FFR, its just about dead at this point why try and get a file in when it'll probably be gone soon. :\
                        -4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-

                        Originally posted by Sir_Thomas
                        Dood... you done gone got yourself krazee.
                        Originally posted by robertsona
                        I hear back in 12 AD Jesus Himself sent an FGO to Tass and it got a 9 by JX

                        "[++] 9/10
                        Very good file but not japanese enough ps hi jesus"

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                        • jimerax
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 8185

                          #13
                          Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                          resubmit it (with some improvement) when the batch opens and see what happens.

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                          • OneHandNow
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 5305

                            #14
                            Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                            Originally posted by jimerax
                            resubmit it (with some improvement) when the batch opens and see what happens.
                            batch
                            batch

                            go!

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                            • revolutionomega
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 2240

                              #15
                              Re: My petition for Ultimate Drum Set Solo of Doom file

                              I still wish my tricky disco got ingame'd D: lol.
                              Not that I really care at this point
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