what the **** ffr

[dAnceguy117]

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A2P: not much dude, just starting college classes, they're going a-ok how you been

stargroup: I don't play with six keys. I think minijacks are fun, especially because I recently got decent at them again. I'm also not that into "masterful" simfiles a lot of the time. I don't know what your issue is.

[A2P]

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I've been doing the same actually haha. I've also been hanging downtown a lot these days. Miss U :*

Also, I may get flamed for this but...I think the best file of '09 should go to Piano Concerto Ante Ares

[WTFBrandon]

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I haven't been on this site in a while, but I came back to check some stuff, hoping that the admins had dug the site out of the rut it was in.

and I find this:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...php?level=1305

seriously, what the **** happened to "high quality files only?" hell, what happened to the real music? I thought you guys weren't gonna accept anymore RATO-like songs / files but apparently the site must be doing really well to be able to do this kind of stuff.

peace. and no, I'm not trolling this time. I'm hoping somebody reads this and gives me a serious answer, cause this is just bad.

Well... You're talking about FFR. You expect quality files to get into HERE? People save that stuff for things that matter like STEPMANIA PACKS.
The leftovers get sent here.
Nuff said.

[Nullifidian]

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[krunkykai22]

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Honestly, it's simple. If you don't like a damn song then don't ****ing play it. Seriously, too many people on here bitch and moan about songs they don't like. I know, because I do that a lot. But just because I don't like the song, doesn't mean I make a damn thread about it and bitch about it. Keep it to yourself or don't ****ing play the song. FFR can't just be one type of genre because it would be incredibly boring and only produce a certain amount of participants. The more genres we have the better. Honestly there should be more in my opinion.

As for certain songs I don't like: vertex beta, szamar madar, sympathizer, and some others. But it's not that I don't like the music, its the step charts. There's obviously a difference.

Get over it, FFR can't please everyone, but the admins and mods are doing everything they can to keep FFR one of the best sites on the net. I think they're doing a damn good job. SO quit your ****ing bitching. Seriously.

[Dorby]

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So far we have clarified that

1. everyone is entitled to their own opinioin.

2. quit ur bitchin etc.

3. not every file will meet your standards blah blah blah

[omgitznpv]

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Honestly, it's simple. If you don't like a damn song then don't ****ing play it. Seriously, too many people on here bitch and moan about songs they don't like. I know, because I do that a lot. But just because I don't like the song, doesn't mean I make a damn thread about it and bitch about it. Keep it to yourself or don't ****ing play the song. FFR can't just be one type of genre because it would be incredibly boring and only produce a certain amount of participants. The more genres we have the better. Honestly there should be more in my opinion.

As for certain songs I don't like: vertex beta, szamar madar, sympathizer, and some others. But it's not that I don't like the music, its the step charts. There's obviously a difference.

Get over it, FFR can't please everyone, but the admins and mods are doing everything they can to keep FFR one of the best sites on the net. I think they're doing a damn good job. SO quit your ****ing bitching. Seriously.

if you haven't understood many of the points here yet

people whine about the songs because if they don't play them they stick at the bottom of their levelrank

also with the appeasement with different sorts of music: don't step songs that make bad files (like emo rock mostly because there definitely are some songs out there that do make good files out there). if ffr actually cared about quality control this wouldn't really be a problem (yes there is a whole judging process but most people still don't know crap and continue to let in bad files in or files that are just technically correct but not fun or don't know what an actually fun file is etc; there are only a few actually good files in-game)

[stargroup]

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alright that's it

Get over it, FFR can't please everyone, but the admins and mods are doing everything they can to keep FFR one of the best sites on the net. I think they're doing a damn good job. SO quit your ****ing bitching. Seriously.

FFR can't please everyone, but the objective should be to please as many people as possible. The problem with FFR is that the admins and mods COULD BE DOING A BETTER JOB, they just don't because of laziness or stubbornness. And because of this reason, FFR is not a great site full of potential, but a relatively junk site with no real outstanding aspects.

Coding for the game is crap, charts for the game are crap, administration is sometimes crap, cleanliness is crap, and overall almost everything is at least a little crap.

Including the community.

Here's the problem with cynics who keep bitching. You bitch and you bitch about everything but you never get anything done. You complain about everything and yet you don't explain your reasoning. At least you're trying to bring about positive change, and that's good. But you have to DO SOMETHING.

Now even worse, are the people who are obliviously positive. Do realize that there is no excuse for sucky stepcharts. FFR had the potential to have incredible judges (namely Kommisar and Patashu) but due to the poor administration they were kicked off. If that wasn't bad enough, you step artists KEEP RESTEPPING STUFF FROM STEPMANIA. And when you're not doing that, you step DUMPS, like CSGS, which I might add is one of the worst files to ever hit FFR. You have quite a handful of good files from the past that you guys can learn from (Final Step, Szamar Madar, Blue Rose, Planet Karma), so it's not like you don't know what a good file looks like.

The people who are positive also say that "IF YOU DONT LIKE A STEPCHART DONT PLAY IT". This is the most horrible excuse ever. Just because 2 out 21090852 people like a file does not mean it's good, and does not mean it should be in game. In addition, most players feel the need to play every file or else their ranks will drop. Because of this, it is even MORE important that EVERY file is quality.

Another excuse you guys use is telling cynics to stop forcing opinions on others. Alright fine. If you like crappy files, DON'T TELL US ABOUT IT. We don't want to hear it. You'll lose respect from us and you won't let FFR progress anywhere. In order for the site to maintain quality, you have to maintain expectations. It's bad enough the files are already sucking, and then you guys think it's fine for them to CONTINUE SUCKING.

I bet some of you are thinking, "What difference are you from a cynic? What separates you from the people who only bitch and don't do anything? Why are you special?"
I'm not what I previously described because I actually GET THINGS DONE. I'm working on my 6 key engine, and I stuck with it, and I'm still working on it. I have my goals and I put them TO ACTION. Also, I'm one of FFR's best stepartists, despite the fact I don't step stuff for FFR anymore. I am special because I am spiteful AND insightful.

In summary, files should stop sucking, positive ******s should stop being ******s, cynical bitches should stop whining, and the administration should stop being pack mules. NONE OF YOU ARE DOING ANYTHING RIGHT (except for a select few)


Tass, I thoroughly apologize if this offends you in any way. I could not help myself, and I still have FFR's best intentions in mind. I meant no disrespect. I only hope to bring about a better mindset for the community here. Please don't take out your banhammer.

[Nullifidian]

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if you haven't understood many of the points here yet

people whine about the songs because if they don't play them they stick at the bottom of their levelrank

That really wasn't why After Dawn started this thread.

also with the appeasement with different sorts of music: don't step songs that make bad files (like emo rock mostly because there definitely are some songs out there that do make good files out there). if ffr actually cared about quality control this wouldn't really be a problem (yes there is a whole judging process but most people still don't know crap and continue to let in bad files in or files that are just technically correct but not fun or don't know what an actually fun file is etc; there are only a few actually good files in-game)

Totally subjective bro
EDIT CAUSE STARGROUP IS RAGING AT ME: Up to a certain extent set by current standards of what is acceptable and what not in a simfile.

I agree with you that that those emo rock songs suck btw (and a whole bunch of other songs on FFR), but i'm sure alot of other people like those songs.

[omgitznpv]

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Totally subjective bro

what's a better file

glove's in the presence of enemies (part 2?) or rebirth's blooddrunk (not that it's even technically correct tho) for example


it's still technically subjective but uhhh there isn't much of an argument, because glove utilizes and executes certain techniques better

sorry for being a ****** @ stargroup i had to say this


also stargroup planet karma in ffr doesn't rule sorry i never want to play the file more than once

but la camp isn't that good anyways learn to understand the points of the song and step them > : O

[KotHN]

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The problem with FFR is that the admins and mods COULD BE DOING A BETTER JOB, they just don't because of laziness or stubbornness.

Where else do you address this? The game could be better, but we can't change that. Is complaining going to help? No? Go and stage a coup then.

In addition, most players feel the need to play every file or else their ranks will drop. Because of this, it is even MORE important that EVERY file is quality.

Once again, it's a game. You are much too serious.

[stargroup]

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Where else do you address this? The game could be better, but we can't change that. Is complaining going to help? No? Go and stage a coup then.

IT WOULD GET BETTER IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD SHUT UP

my complaining does help for your information. you obviously don't know who I am you f*cking dumbass

Once again, it's a game. You are much too serious.

notice how I said OTHER people feel this way. also, just because people don't want to play a game seriously doesn't mean that the game's quality should diminish. would you buy a retarded console game, regardless of whether or not you played it seriously?

[KotHN]

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It would get better if I stopped being apathetic? How about I start working in the wrong direction? Brb, submitting a bajillion dumps.

Yes, I know who you are, but apart from being an alright stepartist, you're just another self-righteous arsehole.

PS, this game is free. If people want it to be friggin awesome and stuff, maybe they should sink some real money into it.

I notice you're not a subby 8)

[Nullifidian]

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what's a better file

glove's in the presence of enemies (part 2?) or rebirth's blooddrunk (not that it's even technically correct tho) for example


it's still technically subjective but uhhh there isn't much of an argument, because glove utilizes and executes certain techniques better

Yeah I totally agree. That was a bit my fault, I didn't completely specify what I meant in my post at first until stargroup started raging at me on aim and I edited my post:

"Up to a certain extent set by current standards of what is acceptable and what not in a simfile."


Obviously one handed trills for gazillion measures aren't gonna be fun or acceptable for a great majority of the people. (I'm wondering why it even got in FFR in the first place)

EDIT: And with this post, I'll stop posting in this thread, cause I find this thread retarded as ****.

[who_cares973]

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but la camp isn't that good anyways learn to understand the points of the song and step them > : O

im re stepping a better version of la camp for sm unless i get lazy



also going by fun factor

la campanella> planet karma