what the **** ffr

[dAnceguy117]

Re: what the **** ffr

well I get egotistical because I rage

which I haven't done in a long time here which I wanted to avoid which is why I wanted this thread goddamn locked

You need to be able to address topics and discuss them without getting angry.

I'm not always right, but I usually am

You're still in need of an attitude fix.

Maybe more people would stick around if many of the easy files were actually good.

Good point. I can't remember why Synthlight decided to keep his original files in the game. Nostalgia? They should at least be credit songs, so they would be hidden at first. Maybe even use the old password system. It looks like almost all of the difficulty 1-4 songs were put in the game within two years of 2nd Style's release. That could be something to focus on improving.

edit: ok right after I click reply I remember things

This was brought up a long time ago, and I'm sure it's come up many times since. Even as newer, more polished files for beginners came out, the originals remained around the top of the most played lists. Most novices can't tell how accurate a file is. It's still something to address, but it's not quite as alarming as it seems to many of us.

[devonin]

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There've been plenty of advocates for restepping all the old blue-note songs, not just the ones that are easy (mario bros, et al) but hellbeat and cia rave and all the original blueskinned files.

The reasoning for why not has always been "history" and "nostalgia" and "AAA'ing all the synth songs is a bit of a rite of passage" and all that, but honestly, I see no reason why the songs that determine whether the majority of new users will stay or not shouldn't be done to be as precise and clear as possible.

[gnr61]

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There are universally accepted standards for stepping files, like proper layering and PR.

nope

[Mollocephalus]

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yes most files would need a fix. there are also a number of files that are blatantly out of sync, and i really have no idea why nothing has been fixed about either of those in years.

[omgitznpv]

Re: what the **** ffr

There've been plenty of advocates for restepping all the old blue-note songs, not just the ones that are easy (mario bros, et al) but hellbeat and cia rave and all the original blueskinned files.

The reasoning for why not has always been "history" and "nostalgia" and "AAA'ing all the synth songs is a bit of a rite of passage" and all that, but honestly, I see no reason why the songs that determine whether the majority of new users will stay or not shouldn't be done to be as precise and clear as possible.

not to mention i totally gouge my eyes out playing stuff like hellbeat party4u lethal injection etc. my eyes are bad enough as they are

[gnr61]

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oh yeah thats also true, there is no legitimate reason to keep songs in the game that are ubiquitously acknowledged as bad files...new players don't care about "nostalgia files." old players hate the living hell out of "nostalgia files." why are they theeeeere >_<

[OnixRose]

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Well the OP is a little bit much that song is actually kind of cool. RATO is a semi ok song if you like IDM...grind 2 on the other hand...

I see we're now talking about blue files. I suck at them but I suck at a lot of stuff so to me it's just w/e.

[jimerax]

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BN file discussion has been discussed over and over in the past, and the conclusion is that they won't be removed. An alternative idea is making Legacy genre and moving them into there, but it's also unlikely to be done.

[Ghakimx]

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You do if you wanna FC/AAA them.

[gnr61]

Re: what the **** ffr

BN file discussion has been discussed over and over in the past, and the conclusion is that they won't be removed. An alternative idea is making Legacy genre and moving them into there, but it's also unlikely to be done.

saying 'it aint gona change so deal w/ it' about something that is blatantly and indefensibly wrong with the game isn't going to stop everyone from bringing it up at every possible opportunity and they have every reason to (even in the vain hopes that it will someday sink in); your "legacy" genre idea seems like a perfectly reasonable compromise (provided they do not count toward level ranks etc): the 'nostalgia' files stay in the game for the handful of people who would ever want to play them willingly, without getting in the way or inescapably crossing the paths of novice players who will hate the game if they stumble upon something of that sort

[x After Dawn x]

Re: what the **** ffr

Another thing that I'm going to bring up that's related to all of this (that may have been brought up previously in this thread, I apologize if I missed it) is just the overall syncing of songs. After playing extensively with properly synced files in Stepmania, a LOT of users (and no, I'm not just speaking on my own behalf; there are MANY people who share this thought) believe that FFR files, for the most part, have an incorrect offset. Almost every file seems to have a delay between the beat / note / important sound in the file and its arrow. Tass once brought up that this issue could be corrected in 3rd style with a personal offset chooser that gives the user to sync the song however they would personally like with a file. Unfortunately, 3rd style FFR isn't out and probably won't be out for years, which makes this something that I would hope the admins would try to find a short term solution for. I don't mean to blame the admins (as biased as I seem to be), but why haven't we got any answers to these questions in the past months / year(s) ? For example, couldn't a "personal offset chooser" be coded into the current FFR? If so, why hasn't it been done yet in the huge time frame that people have brought up these complaints? And if it can't be coded, why / what else could be done? It's answers like this that I seek that I'm not seeming to get from the admins. And it's embarrassing sometimes that I have to rage and make a thread like this and make myself look like an idiot to get some attention on this issue from the admins (and do not bring up "just PM them or post on their wall" because we all know that would get ignored). Again, sorry if I bitched out a bit on the first post, but I did make a similar (yet proper) thread about FFR's status many months ago, and after waiting so long, nothing seemed to happen.

[who_cares973]

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files will always bee off sync. we need 60fps

[Patashu]

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if we move away all the bad blue arrow files we will have literally no easy files left

step a ****load of easy files or keep dealing w/ it

[dAnceguy117]

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making easy charts is easy

there should be a contest where whoever makes the most the fastest gets a prize

[bluguerrilla]

Re: what the **** ffr

ctrl+r 2.0 rate go