Death piano

[i love you]

Re: Death piano

Mash it and prey to god that you will hit it. It's the best thing to do seriously.

[Dave&Wave]

Re: Death piano

You're all teaching him bad habits . Mashing equals = low combo , not a high score , not learning note combinations that will soon prove vital too yo success. First of all , if you can't hit the red notes , just memorize the notes in you head , and imagine the notes going slower . So just hit the keys and then go faster and faster in your head until you can hit the keys in the game . Oh , and really , I don't think you'll be able to pass death piano either way . Try blue rose . Favorite of mine . I have a much better Average and Overall rank then you , and I just bearly beat death piano . So try a different songs .

[Breakdown16]

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No, Dave&Wave, mashing actually gives a higher combo; however, it worsens your PA. The only songs where mashing will get you far are the toughest of the toughest songs on FFR (Death Piano, vRofl, and so on).

[Dave&Wave]

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But accuracy indefinitely gives you a higher score . All those boos takes away like , 30,000 . But , I will mash if a song has , what I call , A "gate" . It's when it has a bunch of easy notes and combos . So if I get 80,000 for a normal score on a song , a decent "gate" would get me a combo of 160 and then I'd get about 19-20 credits .

[Breakdown16]

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But accuracy indefinitely gives you a higher score . All those boos takes away like , 30,000 . But , I will mash if a song has , what I call , A "gate" . It's when it has a bunch of easy notes and combos . So if I get 80,000 for a normal score on a song , a decent "gate" would get me a combo of 160 and then I'd get about 19-20 credits .

Not quite sure what you're talking about, so could you clarify?

My response to what I interpreted in your post: In FFR, points awarded for combo are far greater than points awarded for PA. Thus, it's always in your best interest to keep your combo. However, you will never score very well unless you can learn to combo without mashing. The exceptions are, as I have stated, extremely difficult songs.

[Dave&Wave]

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As for the "gate" , example : I mash all my way through The Divine Suicide of K because of all those notes , well ,the "gate" is where it has an easy part in the song that will get you a good combo .

[EgomaniaCircus]

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Am I the only one who has absolutely no clue what dave is talking about?

Also the whole memorizing notes thing really doesn't actually work if you can't read them during the song. Duh. The whole "you can do any song if you just memorize the notes" idea is pretty damn stupid.

And honestly, whether or not he's trying for a good score on DP, mashing as hard and as inaccurately as he can is the best thing he could do at this point.

It's going to build the base stamina and finger speed required to accurately hit the notes anyway, and you aren't going to do that by playing VCs all day. It's also going to force him to recognize and differentiate between what I assume to appear to him as large blotches of notes in order to better mash them, which is really just the first step in being able to completely read them and accurately hit them.

Hell I'm going to straight up say it right now, in two months time, the guy who starts playing and mashes FGOs from day 1 is going to be better than the AAA freak who only plays songs he can consistently PA.

It's better for him to struggle with passing death piano until he finally gets it, rather than for him to go piddle around in the easy section of FFR where he doesn't challenge himself.

ps. leave the advice giving to the people actually get good scores on DP, rather than those who just barely pass it. I don't like to be hostile but when you trash on other people's advice and give bad advice yourself I can't really refrain.

[-zeroSKILL-]

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I'm pretty sure the OP is talking about the ending 32nd jacks. Right before the song ends... Just vibrate your fingers as fast as possible and hope you hit enough of the left and right arrows to pass. Your less than 10 seconds away from beating Death Piano at that point.

And to everyone saying mashing won't give you a good score... bah.

I have a 1227 combo, rank 102 on Death Piano. With 1400+ boos. Vibrated the *entire* song. Didn't even try PA'ing the long solo jacks. I just vibrated that one hand, and got a +1 combo and +1 boo with each keystroke. Kept me alive, and I can vibrate my entire hand faster than 1 individual finger... Weird. I know. But when I try to accurately mash, my combo is ****, meaning my score is ****.

EDIT:
Did any body even look at the OP's level stats? You're giving advice meant for pros. The OP can't even FC 4's. -______-

Mash. And mash hard my friend.

Also, go play some easier songs until you get better.

Try FC'ing Super Mario 8 bit 80's remix before you complain to us that you can't pass Death Piano. (He has a 6-2-4-4 78C on Mario 8 bit -________________-)

[MrRubix]

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Mashing is an absolutely retarded skill by itself.

You need to know how to PA decently challenging things first. After that, when you mash, you can figure out more easily how to mash intelligently. That is, you'll know how to shift so that you're diverting the force and speed properly while minimizing needless boos.

However, if you're after rank or score in this game, combo is clearly all you need to get a decent standing. In that case, just mash hard enough so that you maintain combo but don't die. I personally think that's a retarded way to play this game, though. I wish PA had stronger influence over the score than it currently does.

[-zeroSKILL-]

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Hell I'm going to straight up say it right now, in two months time, the guy who starts playing and mashes FGOs from day 1 is going to be better than the AAA freak who only plays songs he can consistently PA.

It's better for him to struggle with passing death piano until he finally gets it, rather than for him to go piddle around in the easy section of FFR where he doesn't challenge himself.

I'm a AAA freak, and I mash the **** out of FGO's... Where am I gonna be in 2 months time? lol

Building up consistent PA on songs you can at least read is another essential step of bettering your skills. You need to learn to recognize patterns and train your fingers to hit them before you're going to be any good at this game.

Try AAA'ing these 3 songs: Excite Bike, Pita, Norfolk Gals.

After that, step up your game and start playing some Standard songs. Play them until you can AAA Easy songs. Then start playing Tricky until you can AAA Standard... etc. That, or do something along those lines that works for you.

[x After Dawn x]

Re: Death piano

You're all teaching him bad habits . Mashing equals = low combo , not a high score , not learning note combinations that will soon prove vital too yo success. First of all , if you can't hit the red notes , just memorize the notes in you head , and imagine the notes going slower . So just hit the keys and then go faster and faster in your head until you can hit the keys in the game . Oh , and really , I don't think you'll be able to pass death piano either way . Try blue rose . Favorite of mine . I have a much better Average and Overall rank then you , and I just bearly beat death piano . So try a different songs .

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. At all.

[igotrhythm]

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Just a little review for the people who have no idea how the scoring works:

550 x perfects
275 x goods
55 x averages
-310 x misses
-20 x boos
1000 x max combo

Undoubtedly combo is rewarded in this incarnation of the game. Why it's rewarded as much as it is, though, is anyone's guess.

I can't pass Death Piano for the life of me (freaking NVLM-type 200 bpm 16th jumpstream with quads...), so I can't say I share your pain, but still, instead of mashing, try improving your speed first.

Edit: Went through my old posts and found something I like to dig up every now and again whenever people start talking about this song.

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v15278362PYjpyr8h

[Dave&Wave]

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Its not about memorizing the notes , it's about recognizing patterns in the notes instead of seeing just lots and lots of notes . I'll explain the "gate" one ore time . An easy part in a hard song . In the gate you don't have to mash to get a good combo .

[GG_Guru]

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If you can hit all 4 arrows, mash or no mash, passing legit songs shouldn't be a problem. So by saying legit, you know that VROFL Beta doesnt count.

[devonin]

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If you can't even pass a song, just play easier songs until you get better at the game, and then go back to it. You aren't going to improve your skills at actually playing the game by beating your head against a song that you can't even clear. Go play 8s and 9s and get your manual dexterity up, and your ability to read the notes up, and then go back to it.