Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

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  • jimerax
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Nov 2003
    • 8185

    #931
    Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

    ok changed these things.

    Starwolf - "Dance" -> "Arcade"
    BV - "Dance" -> "Classic"
    CSGS - "Arcade" -> "Misc"

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    • Coolboyrulez0
      VICES
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Aug 2006
      • 10042

      #932
      Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

      ska cha cha should be spelled Ska-Cha-Cha > arcade (original song from Sonic Rush - DS)
      let mom sleep > arcade (original song from Jet Grind Radio - Dreamcast)

      (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Naganuma)

      Yes, these songs have been in wrong locations for a long time now, but should still be fixed.
      https://soundcloud.com/cbrbreakcore
      https://cbrrecords.bandcamp.com/

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      • bmah
        shots FIRED
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        • Oct 2003
        • 8448

        #933
        Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

        Just how recognizable are these songs? Don't think they're representative enough to be in the arcades section - not classically recognizable tunes. I still have to make a clearer distinction as to what makes a video game song recognizable enough to be in the arcade section, but typically we're talking about very reknown, popular games that most people can recognize. Sonic Rush and Jet Grind Radio aren't one of them.
        Last edited by bmah; 10-28-2009, 10:43 AM.

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        • Dr Tran
          Banned
          • Aug 2008
          • 1134

          #934
          Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Ghakimx
          Piano Concerto 1 was used in a Pad Pack. Thus it should be in Dance.
          thats probably the dumbest reasoning ever

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          • qqwref
            stepmania archaeologist
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2005
            • 4092

            #935
            Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by bmah
            Just how recognizable are these songs? Don't think they're representative enough to be in the arcades section - not classically recognizable tunes. I still have to make a clearer distinction as to what makes a video game song recognizable enough to be in the arcade section, but typically we're talking about very reknown, popular games that most people can recognize. Sonic Rush and Jet Grind Radio aren't one of them.
            QFT. I don't think that a song being in a video game is enough by itself to mean the best placement of the song is in arcade. If a typical FFR player would not hear the song and go "ah, I remember hearing this in [game]", you'd end up with far more people who are confused about why the song's there than people who would notice a problem if the song wasn't in Arcade. I think it's better to aim for the genre groupings to make sense to casual players. If a song is from a video game or is a video game remix, though, we can put that in the song's style without being confusing.
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            • operationstrawbarry
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2004
              • 802

              #936
              Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

              Starwolf - will be in Arcade (Yes)
              Beethoven Virus - can be in Classic (Should be considering its a remix)
              bmv578 - style is dance/rave but I like it being in classic considering the original. (Keep it classical because its only a remix)
              Chaos Japan - Arcade maybe? (Is this from a game or not, if not, it should be dance)
              CSGS - will be in Misc (dont know what song this initial belongs to.)
              PC1 anti ares - I personally don't see a big problem, need more opinions (arcade-like can be a reason for arcade) (arcade)
              Jazz and Pops for Funk - I don't think those are very similar to Funk, it depends on people's opinions. (Personally, there should be a new catagory. Combine funk with jazz and arrangements EX: feldschlacht, Going on spring wind, Final step, Piano X forte etc... That kind of music. I know, arrangements, jazz and funk are very different from another, but its beter than putting them in like say misc or in the wrong catagory)
              anime (pop) - mostly dance (Should be a whole other catagory to combining anime and touhou crap)

              Ive been saying this for years now and it seems to be going on deaf years. Should have a breakcore section. No reason not to considering how many breakcore songs we have. You can also combine it with DNB if you want, but ultimatly, Breakcore sould have its own catagory.

              Personally, a lot of the songs needs to be trasferred from one catagory to another and if anyones interested, I can go over all of them
              Last edited by operationstrawbarry; 10-28-2009, 02:48 PM.

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              • TC_Halogen
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2008
                • 19376

                #937
                Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                Starwolf -- Arcade (Star Fox--I think...)
                Beethoven Virus -- Classic
                bmv.578 -- Dance/Classical (I don't know--is the piece recognizable enough?)
                Chaos Japan -- Dance (not from a game iirc)
                CSGS -- Misc
                PC1 Anti Ares -- Arcade (Kirby.)

                Breakcore doesn't look right as a category. Put a category like Drum n' Bass and then put all of the breakcore stuff in there? As far as all of the other splitting mentioned above, too much unnecessary splitting. Touhou remixes can go into arcade--and I totally agree that anything that sounds like jazz should be thrown into funk (this would be songs like Blue Rose, PxF, GOSW, etc.).

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                • bmah
                  shots FIRED
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8448

                  #938
                  Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                  Just want to address two things:

                  - recognition or familiarity of tunes is solely being applied to the arcade section and isn't a factor in other sections such as classical - there aren't issues that needs to be addressed with this method for other song types

                  - sections such as dance are termed in the broadest sense to encompass several song genres; the number of songs for one specific genre does not warrant an entirely new section such as breakcore - that genre is much more specific and is henceforth not appropriate

                  Halogen: Touhou is quite a niche game and is far from wholly popular or recognizable, save for certain communities such as here. Not representative.
                  Last edited by bmah; 10-29-2009, 04:24 AM.

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                  • Patashu
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 8609

                    #939
                    Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                    yo I don't think touhou is niche any more
                    Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
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                    • Ghakimx
                      Cutie&Handshaking Sounds
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1594

                      #940
                      Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                      Yeah..... I didn't know what Touhou was beforehand.

                      I've never heard the originally bmv.578, and OSTER's remix is alot more dancey anyway.

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                      • TC_Halogen
                        Rhythm game specialist.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #941
                        Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by bmah

                        Halogen: Touhou is quite a niche game and is far from wholly popular or recognizable, save for certain communities such as here. Not representative.
                        Sorry--totally biased on my part.

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                        • stargroup
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 974

                          #942
                          Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                          no you cannot throw jazz songs into funk and no you cannot move touhou songs out of arcade
                          (´・ω・`)

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                          • Dr Tran
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1134

                            #943
                            Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                            lets make a touhou genre

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                            • bmah
                              shots FIRED
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                              • Oct 2003
                              • 8448

                              #944
                              Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Patashu
                              yo I don't think touhou is niche any more
                              think outside of Japan and internet communities first please

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                              • XCV
                                has nice tits
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 744

                                #945
                                Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                                I agree that it's niche. The music is good but it doesn't make an awful lot of sense to give it its own section when other understandably niche genres (i.e. American pop, uggh) haven't been done yet. And yet, we do have to start somewhere. And please not with pop. I'm not playing anything by the Jonas Brothers to get HWG or PianoCore or whatever. I won't be able to take it. But, that's just me.

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