Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #751
    Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by robertsona
    Toxiferious was a nice debut, even if he had a file under debit13.
    The patterns flowed REALLY nicely, probably because he's a good player and knows what feels right.
    The patterns and rhythms seemed correct.
    The song was a little sucky but nice file overall.
    Thanks.

    Now someone teach me to layer instruments better, cause I can't do it. Pad step-artist + layering = doesn't coincide well. =.=

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    • Patashu
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2006
      • 8609

      #752
      Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by TC_Halogen
      Thanks.

      Now someone teach me to layer instruments better, cause I can't do it. Pad step-artist + layering = doesn't coincide well. =.=
      how do I layer instrument???

      Step One: Pick the instrument with the most PR or column sensitive potential and step that.
      Step Two: Pick the next one or two prominent instruments and add in arrows on top of the first instrument where they appear. Re-arrange patterns if they are cumbersome (flood over onto one hand too much, repeat the same kinds of patterns/jumps too much, create 16th minijacks or create 8th jacks in one column needlessly)

      As an example of how you'd post-arrange sounds, the main melody might be descending so you'd go:

      ...4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      ...4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      ...4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      etc

      and there's also a snare on every beat so you layer that in:

      1..4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      .2.4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      .2.4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      etc

      But you're not pleased with the feel it creates (the 123212321 pattern it's forming) so you re-arrange it to give a sense of descending while keeping the layering intact:

      1..4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      ..34
      .2..
      ...4
      ..3.
      1..4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...

      or

      1..4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      ..34
      .2..
      ..3.
      1...
      .2.4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...
      ..34
      .2..
      ..3.
      1...
      .2.4
      ..3.
      .2..
      1...

      Common situations where you'd have to rearrange a PR melody to better layer with is when you throw in a triplet on top of a constant stream and have to re-arrange it to add or remove minijacks as is appropriate or if you want to add a minijacking instrument in without anything running into anything else needlessly.

      You'll probably get the idea of how to layer things smoothly as you practice it
      Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
      http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
      Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
      http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #753
        Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

        Ah. Now I get the general gist of it. I understand PR, but layering instruments is something I really need to practice.

        Also: I just played I Hate the 80's...goddamnit I hate those LR DU LR 16th notes...if it weren't for those, I could probably FC and AAA. =(

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        • robertsona
          missa in h-moll
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2006
          • 3997

          #754
          Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

          i hate the 80s was bad :FILE: 2 HARD
          Last edited by robertsona; 12-22-2008, 11:04 AM.

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          • robertsona
            missa in h-moll
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2006
            • 3997

            #755
            Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by dragonruler12128
            roflmao.
            roflmao.

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            • sc979
              FFR Player
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 1644

              #756
              Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

              PR in this file is bad

              Every BPM change was done by ear. Had to use a couple of high BPMs simply to keep the downbeat on a red note; those BPMs were annoying to find. Highest used was 322. The longest I went without using a BPM change was 14/16ths of a measure.

              Last edited by sc979; 12-22-2008, 10:43 PM.
              ...

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              • roundbox
                fhqwhgads
                • Feb 2005
                • 2032

                #757
                Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                I Hate the 80s is FGO goodnight
                Originally posted by the sun fan
                I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                • t-rogdor
                  tane orb
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 2685

                  #758
                  Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                  sc man, what the hell is that song?
                  Originally posted by cetaka
                  I saw a flyer on a bulletin board at school asking for high-functioning aspergers/autism people to participate in some kind of experiment, and all I could think was, that sounds like a great place to meet girls.

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                  • gnr61
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 7251

                    #759
                    Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                    im gonna go ahead and guess "A world of piano"
                    squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                    • Choofers
                      FFR Player
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 6205

                      #760
                      Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                      It says it on the right. And that song was made in Fruity Loops or something because I have that exact same soundfont hahaha.

                      Props to Patashu, Thrash was really fun. It could've been so much harder though. But then again, this is FFR. I'm trying to step it for StepMania right now x]

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                      • Patashu
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 8609

                        #761
                        Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                        when I was stepping it for sm at one point I had 32nd rolls stepped to the sliding melody in the two solos

                        it was kind of obnoxious so yeah
                        Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                        http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                        Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                        http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                        • Choofers
                          FFR Player
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 6205

                          #762
                          Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                          When I first heard the beginning, I instantly thought 24th streams hahaha.

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                          • Patashu
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 8609

                            #763
                            Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                            they're 32nds doof

                            that would be a dumb thing to step though

                            it's not a good place to put stream; it's kind of out of the way and unclimactic, it's not an energetic part of the song BLAH BLAH BLAH etc
                            Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                            http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                            Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                            http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                            • robertsona
                              missa in h-moll
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 3997

                              #764
                              Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                              who is klutz and where is his homepage

                              i love 600 AD and AWoP

                              as songs

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                              • i love gabba
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 531

                                #765
                                Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

                                Reluctantly Accepting blablabla.... WTF 48th rolls @ like 250 BPM xD
                                I'm an Arbre Triste

                                Originally posted by Amputee/bluexoon.com
                                "who won?"
                                "Zaghurim, he won a popn music machine"

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