Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

[EnR]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

FFR allows you to just hit them as hands and quads... so just do that :P

btw rofl, they're 48th and 64th notes. Not very many songs on FFR have 192nds.

Yes I know you were being sarcastic with 512ths.

[Villiex]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

I know I can hand / quad them... that's not the point either. The point here isn't what I can do. There are plenty of files I can't do very well that I think are stepped well. It's about whether or not it's fun... I just don't think there's a reason to ever be that technical in a file unless you're trying to prove a point or something. If we're talking about whether or not I can do Final Step? Of course. I'm just not going to.

EDIT: Just to say, my stepfiles are horrible. I can't step for crap. But I'm not going to claim I can by sending them into the queue.

[EnR]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

I know what you mean now.

since I make files, I notice when 48ths and 64ths are needed and it seems odd without them xD

[Villiex]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

Wow, probably the most understanding comment I've gotten about hating Final Step (besides one other person whom I love on AIM). Thanks, EnR.

Oh, and to add, it's also about the patterns you use. There is a way to put even the pickiest layering down in a way that's fun to hit. I hated the way all the 48ths and 64ths were played down in Final Step. Same with Lunatic Princess. Oh my god, there were just these huge blobs of 32nd notes. The patterns didn't have any rhyme or reason on my fingers or in my brain. And I don't suck that bad. I don't think it's just me not being able to play.

[EnR]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

I find that because FFR only has like 30 fps, when you play stuff that does have 64ths, sometimes they're really spread out and sometimes they're just hands, it's stupid.

[Xandertrax]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

One style of stepping involves slowing down the song a lot, to hear the stuff slower. However, at the slower speeds, you can hear a LOT more of slower bursts and whatnot. So that may account for some of the 'random' notes in games.

[Villiex]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

I have a pretty strong stance on slowing down a song to hear things you couldn't hear at the normal rate... if you can't hear it at the normal rate, you shouldn't step to it because we are all playing it on the normal rate and that means... we can't hear it! It's really bad stepfiling. Again, that strikes me as an ego trip.

Anyway, I think I've made myself abundantly clear about what I hate in a stepfile.

[foilman8805]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

I really hate 16ths stuck in the middle of 8th jumps at a pretty high BPM. AHEM.

It was either hit the 16ths and ruin PA on the rest of the jumps, or just don't even try to hit those 16ths. That has to be the hardest pattern I've ever come across in FFR.

EDIT: I'm talking about Scythe of 13.

[Xandertrax]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

Sorry...?

[Villiex]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

Yeah, the 16ths were a bad idea... plus, over my mashing the keyboard furiously, I can't even hear what you stepped them to. Not doubting they're there, but... anyway, it would have actually been really fun if it wouldn't have been for the 16ths. All the rest of the stuff was cool.

Also, I realized I was kind of doing myself a disservice by critiquing Final Step so heavily without having played the whole thing, so I finally sat through it. 4 minutes of incredibly bad ****, let me tell you. It only gets worse at it goes on. I'll write an actual review sometime later.

[t-rogdor]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

I'll write an actual review sometime later.

Please dont.

[EnR]

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I step all my files at 0.5 rate...oops.

That's not abd stepfilling, that's what you should be doing for a stepfile.

[Villiex]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

Please dont.

Why not? Afraid it will make sense and deface everybody's beloved Final Step?

Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

Yeah, that's what this thread is for. Review is coming.

I step all my files at 0.5 rate...oops.

That's not abd stepfilling, that's what you should be doing for a stepfile.

I didn't say stepping at a slow rate is bad stepfiling. Who doesn't do that? But when you go back and play your stepfile, you should realize there are things you stepped to that you just flat out don't hear anymore. Or, realize while listening to the slow rate that you probably can't hear this if you speed it back up.

[t-rogdor]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

Why not? Afraid it will make sense and deface everybody's beloved Final Step?

No.

I dont LOVE Final Step. I somewhat Enjoy it.

Also, im not in the mood for a flame fest/Trolling.

[Villiex]

Re: Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

I haven't flamed or trolled anyone here... and you still haven't given me a reason why I shouldn't.