Avmiss public release

[Adamaja456]

Re: Avmiss public release

So what is the avmiss fix anyways. I'm a little confused on what it does....

it fixes the glitch that has been in the game for over 5 years. The glitch were the jacks are too close so you get an average on the first arrow then miss the second arrow and most of the time resulting in a boo as well.

[Redorigami]

Re: Avmiss public release

As well as the framers that existed in streams that were too fast and it's harder to combo them well.

[demonllama6124]

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Maybe av-misses will be delayed as long as brawl was?

Then we wont see the av-fix for a couple of more months then.lol
thats why im glad im a subscriber.

And lets hope that the plane doesnt get hijacked by terrorists X_X

[Sa Li El]

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It's not too big of a deal, for a game that is essentially free. You could even shell out a mere $3.50 for a whole month of non-avmissing, if you really think it will maybe be delayed for a lot longer.

[dawg4321]

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i don't want to pay for something that could virtually come out any second.

[I_hate_arrays]

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i don't want to pay for something that fixes a glitch.

Fix'd.
Paying for the extra features is fine and makes sense, but paying for something that makes the game run correctly is just silly.

[Sprite-]

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Fix'd.
Paying for the extra features is fine and makes sense, but paying for something that makes the game run correctly is just silly.

How is it "correct"? You're comparing it to games like Stepmania. Maybe FFR was supposed to be different from Stepmania. So you are only using the term "correctly" in relation to other arrow games. Just because Stepmania doesn't give average misses doesn't mean FFR shouldn't. They are two totally different games, or at least were -_-

[Bynary Fission]

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How is it "correct"? You're comparing it to games like Stepmania. Maybe FFR was supposed to be different from Stepmania. So you are only using the term "correctly" in relation to other arrow games. Just because Stepmania doesn't give average misses doesn't mean FFR shouldn't. They are two totally different games, or at least were -_-

Average-misses are a game glitch that ruins your ability to play many songs. FFR is supposed to enable you to play songs correctly; otherwise, it would be busted. Average-misses are a glitch; therefore it messes up your ability to play properly, and thus the game does not completely run as intended, making the game run "incorrectly", even if the game technically still "works".


But yeah I agree, we shouldn't have to pay for a fix to a critical game glitch (or at least I consider it critical).

~Bynary Fission

[Sprite-]

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Average-misses are a game glitch that ruins your ability to play many songs. FFR is supposed to enable you to play songs correctly; otherwise, it would be busted. Average-misses are a glitch; therefore it messes up your ability to play properly, and thus the game does not completely run as intended, making the game run "incorrectly", even if the game technically still "works".


But yeah I agree, we shouldn't have to pay for a fix to a critical game glitch (or at least I consider it critical).

~Bynary Fission

Maybe Synth wanted the glitch to make it different from Stepmania. You don't know... Maybe it was the way the game was supposed to run until people complained uncontrollably about it :P

[RoastedNoob]

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Yeah, but avmiss was one amazing glitch. It added so much to the game. I use to love, love, love passing through without getting avmisses on framers. It felt so good. Now I feel nothing. It's just emptiness when I jack. :[ Oh, well. I've gotten use to not having them as much as I hated losing them. Sorry, guys. lol

Anyone who played Melee/S64, I think avmisses can be easily compared to l-cancelling. It was a skill you had to master in order to reach the next level of gameplay. It was an aspect you had to forcibly think about until it became habit, and that was how you became an "FFR pro." With that dimension gone, the game became a lot easier, and a lot more similar to StepMania, which a lot of people may dislike, but that's how it was intended to be. Similar to wavedashing in Melee. The players grew to love it, but people complained. It's a glitch! Blah, blah. Not that I didn't complain when I would get an avmiss, in my head anyway.. but I still loved them. Then Brawl(Third Style) comes along, and the creators took out the glitch they did not intend to have. Many people were sad, many were happy. Anyway, I'm just relating the two. Avmiss = FFR's advanced technique.

[Sprite-]

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I agree 100% with you. I liked them too.

[Bynary Fission]

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Well you two are right, I've AAA'ed/FC'ed several songs with jacks, and man does it feel good to do so. But I get so many average misses that they screw my combos on songs like CIA Rave, AIM Anthem, etc. Average-misses are so detrimental that I wouldn't say it's worth it...especially since I miss jacks so much more than I hit them...


~Bynary Fission

[Gilly G]

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But I get so many average misses that they screw my combos on songs like CIA Rave

CIA Rave has jacks? Doesn't it have 5-framers? =.= Or 6? xD

[RoastedNoob]

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Not to mention being able to have awesome songs like Electro Rush x8 v2 now. I love that song.

[Bynary Fission]

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CIA Rave has jacks? Doesn't it have 5-framers? =.= Or 6? xD

Yeah, but I had a 339 combo, and an average-miss killed it...and I did it one-handed too. You have no idea what it feels like to get such a huge combo on a song like that then lose it to an average miss. However, I don't see how I'd get one, but I did.


~Bynary Fission