About the Tournament

[devonin]

Re: About the Tournament

like for a Intermediate guy 5-8 if he has 5-10 lvl 9 songs that will move him to Advanced

Where he will be smashed into goo by everyone there who has everything from 1-10 AAA'd but didn't have enough 11 AAA's to get bumped into expert.

heh yea what ever happened to those, i thought they were going to make a system for those.

I uh...have a complete amateur tier point system done and ready to go, I've been trying to get a hold of LightDarkness for like two weeks.

[heyitsmee]

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well that is called the natural lower end of Advanced
the specific detail for moving to Advanced from intermediate is really the issue for discussion

[.david]

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I fully agree, cause seeing players like heyitsme in intermediate completely discouraged me from the tourney. I was so excited because i thought i'd have a chance at vrofl, but thats not happening if people who can AAA every song in intermediate dont get moved.

[Doug31]

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The divisions are currently set up so that, except in expert, you should be able to AAA or extremely close to it every song except at the very end. They need to crank up the difficulty of the songs, too.

[HammyMcSquirrel]

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Edit: Err, honestly, there's too big of a skill difference within each division. There should be 5 divisions, then it could be made like this:

Master - 61-90
Expert - 41-60
Advanced - 21-40
Intermediate - 3-20
Beginner - 0-2

Although, if there was one set way of doing it like this, people could try to stay just low enough to be in a lower division. There should be some system that could put people in divisions pretty well though.

Exactly what I think should happen. It's why I used five divisions like that for the tourney I ran. It works out much better.

[heyitsmee]

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david i am pure intermediate.

i have no lvl 9 AAAs
and there are alot of lvl 8 songs i cant get even close to AAA

[devonin]

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254 FCs to my 116, and we're both in intermediate. So are you too good for the division, or am I too bad?

[Doug31]

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Neither, it's just that each division has to have that wide of a range of skill with only 4 divisions.

[heyitsmee]

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i dont know about you devonin i looked at your profile
but iam pure intermediate

[.david]

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I think having 5 division would have worked better, hopefully they will do it next time. And heyitsme, ur easily gonna finish top 8, ur av rank is amazing, and u have 100 AAAs more then almost everyone in intermediate. Your deffiniatly not "pure" intermediate. Your probably high middle maybe higher in advance.

[devonin]

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But here's the thing: Do you really think things ought to be split up so that -every- person entering the tourney has a chance to win?

If your'e good enough to AAA every song in the beginner section, you should not be in the beginner section. If that means you get crushed in intermediate, that just means that you're stuck on a skill plateau where you're too good for one division and not good enough for the next one.

Would you rather there be 100 divisions? So that every person who enters can be fit into one where they have a chance to win? -Most- people who take part in major tourney events won't win, won't even have a chance to win. Watch the PGA standings some time and you'll see what I mean.

I knew when I entered that I would be intermediate, and that i woudln't likely make it past round 3 or 4. It happens.

[.david]

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i just hope i can make it to the final 8. just having vrofl would be sweet, even tho i wont be able to play it. Also, devonin, you make a very good point.

[Tasselfoot]

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perhaps we'll do 5 divisions next tournament. no moves will be made to change placement in this tournament. sprite did an amazing job, and still is doing one. there were 2-3 glaring mistakes that were changed at the start of round 1. anything else is just left as is.

tier points, AAAs, FCs, average rank, and top10 scores that were not AAAs were all factored into deciding divisions.

and to those with the TP suggestion... 1 TP = automatic intermediate. every person in beginner has 0 TPs. Intermediate was something like 1-60, and 60+ was advanced. there were of course exceptions to that rule, but that was the generalization.

then expert was done on a case-by-case basis.

[heyitsmee]

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i can still name wrong placements

[devonin]

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It happens. Don't lose sleep over it. I hardly think that the entire tournament is ruined completely by a few people that -you- think are in the wrong division.