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  • devonin
    Very Grave Indeed
    Event Staff
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2004
    • 10120

    #16
    Re: About the Tournament

    like for a Intermediate guy 5-8 if he has 5-10 lvl 9 songs that will move him to Advanced
    Where he will be smashed into goo by everyone there who has everything from 1-10 AAA'd but didn't have enough 11 AAA's to get bumped into expert.

    heh yea what ever happened to those, i thought they were going to make a system for those.
    I uh...have a complete amateur tier point system done and ready to go, I've been trying to get a hold of LightDarkness for like two weeks.

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    • heyitsmee
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2006
      • 2042

      #17
      Re: About the Tournament

      well that is called the natural lower end of Advanced
      the specific detail for moving to Advanced from intermediate is really the issue for discussion
      Last edited by heyitsmee; 09-23-2007, 05:05 PM.

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      • .david
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2007
        • 490

        #18
        Re: About the Tournament

        I fully agree, cause seeing players like heyitsme in intermediate completely discouraged me from the tourney. I was so excited because i thought i'd have a chance at vrofl, but thats not happening if people who can AAA every song in intermediate dont get moved.
        AAA's - 110
        Best - BALLOON FEVER :O
        Most Recent - BALLOON FEVER!
        Tier Points - 327

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        • Doug31
          Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jun 2004
          • 6811

          #19
          Re: About the Tournament

          The divisions are currently set up so that, except in expert, you should be able to AAA or extremely close to it every song except at the very end. They need to crank up the difficulty of the songs, too.

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          • HammyMcSquirrel
            Everlong
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Dec 2004
            • 3833

            #20
            Re: About the Tournament

            Originally posted by Doug31

            Edit: Err, honestly, there's too big of a skill difference within each division. There should be 5 divisions, then it could be made like this:

            Master - 61-90
            Expert - 41-60
            Advanced - 21-40
            Intermediate - 3-20
            Beginner - 0-2

            Although, if there was one set way of doing it like this, people could try to stay just low enough to be in a lower division. There should be some system that could put people in divisions pretty well though.
            Exactly what I think should happen. It's why I used five divisions like that for the tourney I ran. It works out much better.

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            • heyitsmee
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2006
              • 2042

              #21
              Re: About the Tournament

              david i am pure intermediate.

              i have no lvl 9 AAAs
              and there are alot of lvl 8 songs i cant get even close to AAA
              Last edited by heyitsmee; 09-23-2007, 05:12 PM.

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              • devonin
                Very Grave Indeed
                Event Staff
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Apr 2004
                • 10120

                #22
                Re: About the Tournament

                254 FCs to my 116, and we're both in intermediate. So are you too good for the division, or am I too bad?

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                • Doug31
                  Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 6811

                  #23
                  Re: About the Tournament

                  Neither, it's just that each division has to have that wide of a range of skill with only 4 divisions.

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                  • heyitsmee
                    FFR Player
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 2042

                    #24
                    Re: About the Tournament

                    i dont know about you devonin i looked at your profile
                    but iam pure intermediate

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                    • .david
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 490

                      #25
                      Re: About the Tournament

                      I think having 5 division would have worked better, hopefully they will do it next time. And heyitsme, ur easily gonna finish top 8, ur av rank is amazing, and u have 100 AAAs more then almost everyone in intermediate. Your deffiniatly not "pure" intermediate. Your probably high middle maybe higher in advance.
                      AAA's - 110
                      Best - BALLOON FEVER :O
                      Most Recent - BALLOON FEVER!
                      Tier Points - 327

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                      • devonin
                        Very Grave Indeed
                        Event Staff
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 10120

                        #26
                        Re: About the Tournament

                        But here's the thing: Do you really think things ought to be split up so that -every- person entering the tourney has a chance to win?

                        If your'e good enough to AAA every song in the beginner section, you should not be in the beginner section. If that means you get crushed in intermediate, that just means that you're stuck on a skill plateau where you're too good for one division and not good enough for the next one.

                        Would you rather there be 100 divisions? So that every person who enters can be fit into one where they have a chance to win? -Most- people who take part in major tourney events won't win, won't even have a chance to win. Watch the PGA standings some time and you'll see what I mean.

                        I knew when I entered that I would be intermediate, and that i woudln't likely make it past round 3 or 4. It happens.

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                        • .david
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 490

                          #27
                          Re: About the Tournament

                          i just hope i can make it to the final 8. just having vrofl would be sweet, even tho i wont be able to play it. Also, devonin, you make a very good point.
                          AAA's - 110
                          Best - BALLOON FEVER :O
                          Most Recent - BALLOON FEVER!
                          Tier Points - 327

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                          • Tasselfoot
                            Retired BOSS
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 25185

                            #28
                            Re: About the Tournament

                            perhaps we'll do 5 divisions next tournament. no moves will be made to change placement in this tournament. sprite did an amazing job, and still is doing one. there were 2-3 glaring mistakes that were changed at the start of round 1. anything else is just left as is.

                            tier points, AAAs, FCs, average rank, and top10 scores that were not AAAs were all factored into deciding divisions.

                            and to those with the TP suggestion... 1 TP = automatic intermediate. every person in beginner has 0 TPs. Intermediate was something like 1-60, and 60+ was advanced. there were of course exceptions to that rule, but that was the generalization.

                            then expert was done on a case-by-case basis.
                            RIP

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                            • heyitsmee
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 2042

                              #29
                              Re: About the Tournament

                              i can still name wrong placements

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                              • devonin
                                Very Grave Indeed
                                Event Staff
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 10120

                                #30
                                Re: About the Tournament

                                It happens. Don't lose sleep over it. I hardly think that the entire tournament is ruined completely by a few people that -you- think are in the wrong division.

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