Ingame Song Information

[x After Dawn x]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Well if it's like The Adventures of Lolo, probably not...though that is both longer and more difficult than Lolo.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

3 minutes, consistent 12 jump stream 400BPM, that's like twice Lolo's speed for 6 times the length

[L0NEvvolf]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Rose should be Very challenging.

[Breakdown16]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Rose should be Very challenging.

Not if Over the Frail Dream is 200 BPM stream and is only a challenging. Over the Frail Dream should be moved up, in my opinion. {Rose} is fine where it is.

And I'm sure the listed BPM of Piano Etude (Gymnastics) is incorrect, as there are numerous BPM changes in that song.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Not if Over the Frail Dream is 200 BPM stream and is only a challenging. Over the Frail Dream should be moved up, in my opinion. {Rose} is fine where it is.

And I'm sure the listed BPM of Piano Etude (Gymnastics) is incorrect, as there are numerous BPM changes in that song.

agreed, I talked about this earlier, Over the Frail Dream is MUCH harder than Dot Death and Carrousel Paradise. The speed and length of the stream should alone move it up to a low VC, screw the patterns, it's still hard to keep up the speed for a AAA (for most people at least, not me though)

[Xx{Midday}xX]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

VB is not an FMO. Over the Frail Dream is not a VC.

There are many easier FMOs than VB, but VB stays a VC. Same goes for OtFD. The situations are basically analagous.

OtFD is borderline. There are always borderline songs in any level, and can be eternally disputed on opinion.

I believe OtFD is C. I believe VB is FMO. Difficulty cannot be changed so constantly due to a tide of opinion. OtFD became C at the beginning after some dispute, and will stay a C. VB, with even more dispute, stayed VC and will stay a VC.

Many people reason that OtFD would've been VC with avmiss. Without, it's a C. That's the logic.

[robertsona]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Lol IMO OTFD is definitely VC
it's so fast...

[Breakdown16]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Another thing I've been wondering, why is Kil Stage one of the harder VCs? I've AAA'd it and can consistently get good PA on it; I find songs like HELLBEAT and Vertex BETA much more difficult.

[Patashu]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Hellbeat is ok once you know the three tricks; the two trills end early and the random left minijack
Vertex beta is straightforward, no tricks

[Breakdown16]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Well, the one-handed trills in HELLBEAT and Vertex BETA are harder than the one down-right trill in Kil Stage. The odd patterns in HELLBEAT also screw me over. Not too much speed is required to AAA Kil Stage either.

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Kil Stage is high-VC mainly because of PA difficulty, and maybe jumpstreams.

[L0NEvvolf]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Not if Over the Frail Dream is 200 BPM stream and is only a challenging. Over the Frail Dream should be moved up, in my opinion. {Rose} is fine where it is.

And I'm sure the listed BPM of Piano Etude (Gymnastics) is incorrect, as there are numerous BPM changes in that song.

Over the frail dreams stream is much easier, best score on that is 1 good, best on rose is 15 good and 1 boo, most people AAA VCings and alot of them before AAAing rose.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Okay, difference:

Xeno-flow < Kil Stage in terms of both PA and difficulty

Kil Stage is hard for multiple reasons, and yes, it requires quite some speed, mainly my problem with fixing my BF is always the 24th trill, that requires speed, and so doe the various 24th-48th rolls, which some have weird patterns that aren't consistent. Top that off with a jumpstream that has 48th bursts consistently thrown in and you've got yourself a high VC, for me Hellbeat was an easier AAA, but ya know, it's different for everyone

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Over the frail dreams stream is much easier, best score on that is 1 good, best on rose is 15 good and 1 boo, most people AAA VCings and alot of them before AAAing rose.

Rose is C, but patterns make it hard for most to PA

[foilman8805]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Lapis is definitely a VC. That jumpstream is way to hard for a 9.

Also, what's the reasoning for the C rating on Over the Frail Dream? That stream is like 200 BPM...