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  • 3lijah
    This ma coo coo face
    • Apr 2007
    • 890

    #16
    Re: What happened to Etienne?

    Originally posted by Lagrange Multiplier
    In my opinion though, he along with many other prior top players have become disillusioned towards the game because of the current state of the meta, where purely pushing speed and forcing scores has become the standard rather than consistency and accurate play (which also is reflected by the majority of new files and packs being released).

    I don't blame him, and in a way klimt is correct, albeit with divisive wording, but at a point it becomes incredibly difficult to keep up with the progression of speed, and from a mental perspective, getting absolutely no recognition for your accomplishments because the average player doesn't appreciate their intricacies and is more focused on "haha when epsilon daniel clear??? x player did it faster already hahahaha" is a difficult mental block to overcome.

    I doubt he has fully quit rhythm games because we don't quit, we just take breaks, but I am not at all surprised that he would find it unenjoyable now. Also consider the fact that nearly all the top players from his peak era have now also quit, it likely feels very alienating to continue to play.
    ohhhhh, so THATs why nobody gives a fuck about any of my plays unless its some fucked up dan course that's difficult just for the sake of being difficult and not fun at all! I am pretty sure this is Osu's fault lmfao
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    • DossarLX ODI
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      • Mar 2008
      • 15000

      #17
      Re: What happened to Etienne?

      Originally posted by 3lijah
      ohhhhh, so THATs why nobody gives a fuck about any of my plays unless its some fucked up dan course that's difficult just for the sake of being difficult and not fun at all! I am pretty sure this is Osu's fault lmfao
      Wise word of advice: Don't play these games for views. One of the worst decisions someone can make.
      Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 02-15-2023, 11:22 PM.
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      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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      • ToonE156
        D7 Elite Keymasher
        • Jul 2021
        • 652

        #18
        Re: What happened to Etienne?

        Originally posted by 3lijah
        ohhhhh, so THATs why nobody gives a fuck about any of my plays unless its some fucked up dan course that's difficult just for the sake of being difficult and not fun at all! I am pretty sure this is Osu's fault lmfao
        focus on those that already support and encourage you, dont trip over those who dont.
        dont trust this user at all --------> https://www.twitch.tv/toone156
        Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
        If accuracy is not your middle name, my balls smell like lavender and honey.


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        • ToonE156
          D7 Elite Keymasher
          • Jul 2021
          • 652

          #19
          Re: What happened to Etienne?

          and yes I did indeed steal that life advice from someone else
          dont trust this user at all --------> https://www.twitch.tv/toone156
          Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
          If accuracy is not your middle name, my balls smell like lavender and honey.


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          • EtienneSM
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2013
            • 1724

            #20
            Re: What happened to Etienne?

            I initially wasn't going to respond to this thread, but after coming across it again, I figured why not? After all, this was practically the birth of my rhythm gaming career, so the least I can do is to provide an explanation lmao.

            Lagrange Multiplier pretty much hit the nail on the head in terms of why I quit 4k specifically. As more and more players quit and the more and more the meta shifted towards a specific type of play, it became beyond frustrating to continue playing, streaming; the whole 9 yards really. Competition was a big driving force, and when you take that away after 15+ years of playing, you slowly run out of ways to stay engaged with the game at that level. It would be cool to return to top-level play someday to accomplish some lingering goals I never obtained, but finding time/energy is very difficult and these scores will likely never be published publicly (aside from Etterna's site maybe).

            As for the general rhythm game community itself, I think to this day it's hard to articulate my emotions properly as to why I grew so vehemently apart from it. Whether it's how certain communities treated me, feeling socially isolated (via personality/lifestyle differences), running out of good content to make; it's a culmination of things that caught up with me pretty harshly as I got more and more into my 20's, and a mini-identity crisis eventually solidified my transition to making other content. I absolutely love what I do now, and it feels good to do something a lot closer to my true self instead of an actively waning hobby whose community I've grown terminally out of touch with lmfao.

            That's more or less about it tbh. Hope y'all have been doing well.
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            • xXOpkillerXx
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              FFR Simfile Author
              • Dec 2008
              • 4207

              #21
              Re: What happened to Etienne?

              Rhythm gaming has an extremely low reward to effort ratio, so it's no surprise that every single top tier player eventually loses interest. You had a decently long "era" imo and that's more than what 99.9% of players will ever get to experience. Glad to hear you enjoy your new style. Cheers.

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              • Zyxel
                Event Staff
                Event Staff
                • Feb 2023
                • 194

                #22
                Re: What happened to Etienne?

                Originally posted by EtienneSM
                I initially wasn't going to respond to this thread, but after coming across it again, I figured why not? After all, this was practically the birth of my rhythm gaming career, so the least I can do is to provide an explanation lmao.

                Lagrange Multiplier pretty much hit the nail on the head in terms of why I quit 4k specifically. As more and more players quit and the more and more the meta shifted towards a specific type of play, it became beyond frustrating to continue playing, streaming; the whole 9 yards really. Competition was a big driving force, and when you take that away after 15+ years of playing, you slowly run out of ways to stay engaged with the game at that level. It would be cool to return to top-level play someday to accomplish some lingering goals I never obtained, but finding time/energy is very difficult and these scores will likely never be published publicly (aside from Etterna's site maybe).

                As for the general rhythm game community itself, I think to this day it's hard to articulate my emotions properly as to why I grew so vehemently apart from it. Whether it's how certain communities treated me, feeling socially isolated (via personality/lifestyle differences), running out of good content to make; it's a culmination of things that caught up with me pretty harshly as I got more and more into my 20's, and a mini-identity crisis eventually solidified my transition to making other content. I absolutely love what I do now, and it feels good to do something a lot closer to my true self instead of an actively waning hobby whose community I've grown terminally out of touch with lmfao.

                That's more or less about it tbh. Hope y'all have been doing well.

                word, glad to see you're doing alright otherwise!

                love the running content btw, keep it up
                Last edited by Zyxel; 04-14-2023, 02:41 PM.

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                • MarioNintendo
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4177

                  #23
                  Re: What happened to Etienne?

                  Ayy that's healthy as fuck, good for you Etienne!

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                  • drizzleRomanceGirl
                    It's okay to be yourself.
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 2963

                    #24
                    Re: What happened to Etienne?

                    i'm really happy for you
                    hi

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