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  • rushyrulz
    Digital Dancing!
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2006
    • 12985

    #16
    Re: Optimal arrow speed?

    Originally posted by ilikexd
    Increasing the speed makes the arrows more spread and thus recognized more easily, more accurately, and more quickly as pattern shapes, which is how stepcharts are read at harder levels.

    It also causes less arrows to simultaneously populate the viewing field which creates less confusion and information overload -- this is why some players use a screencut in addition to their speedmod.
    This is true, but at a certain (not very high) point, I think the arrow spacing stops mattering so much. Dossar played at 1.75 on velocity which is considered very slow, yet he was (is) one of the best players in the game. In fact, I use that to validate that the speed I use isn't too slow since I play at roughly the same speed as Dossar, which to most people is friggen slow.

    1.9x R^3 with screencut to match Velocity dimensions, 1.75 velocity, 1.75 legacy and I'm mid-high D6.
    Last edited by rushyrulz; 01-4-2015, 11:24 PM.


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    • Wayward Vagabond
      Confirmed Heartbreaker
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jul 2012
      • 5866

      #17
      Re: Optimal arrow speed?

      i still use the legacy engine. come at me lordcarlos

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      • Poison-
        Nope
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Nov 2010
        • 3772

        #18
        Re: Optimal arrow speed?

        Velocity Engine >

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        • Xtreme2252
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2007
          • 218

          #19
          Re: Optimal arrow speed?

          I play on 2.2 reverse scroll with Delta arrows and it's perfect for me. I used to prefer 2.0 but once I got comfortable with the game again 2.2 made it easier for me to time the notes and AAA harder songs.

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          • LordCarlos
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2014
            • 52

            #20
            Re: Optimal arrow speed?

            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
            i still use the legacy engine. come at me lordcarlos
            Ok I will, Yup.

            Well some people are old school I guess. They're called "classic" for a reason. I personally love old stuff such as moldy cheese.

            I'm surprised people are quoting 2.0x as a speed, I think someone on multiplayer said he does 3.5x or something, and I was only at 1.0x at the time, so listened to him and I increased it to 3.0 and it's actually manageable and fun to play on R^3. I reduced it back to 2.3 when I heard the slower speeds on here, and found some skill improvement so who knows? Maybe practicing on higher speeds results in larger/faster skill acquiring

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            • rayword45
              Local Teenage Wastebasket
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2007
              • 3212

              #21
              Re: Optimal arrow speed?

              R^2 and R^3 I use 2.75. I can't score well on any framerate higher than 30 and any speedmod higher at 30 FPS looks like blurry shit (worth noting that I only work in increments of .25)

              Velocity and Legacy I use 2.0.
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              • rushyrulz
                Digital Dancing!
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2006
                • 12985

                #22
                Re: Optimal arrow speed?

                2.8+ is unfathomably fast for me.

                I don't do well on 2.1+
                Last edited by rushyrulz; 01-6-2015, 08:50 AM.


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                • LordCarlos
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 52

                  #23
                  Re: Optimal arrow speed?

                  Originally posted by rayword45
                  R^2 and R^3 I use 2.75. I can't score well on any framerate higher than 30 and any speedmod higher at 30 FPS looks like blurry shit (worth noting that I only work in increments of .25)

                  Velocity and Legacy I use 2.0.
                  So higher FPS reduces your ability to score well? "Blurry"? I thought that high FPS = more smooth and accurate. 60 FPS is the max for almost all monitors. I'm surprised because Low FPS means less smoothness in the arrow movements.

                  I can see how they would become more "blurry" but it would also make it much less "choppy" if you know what I mean.

                  Anyways I'm interested by the opinions, some of them come as a surprise. I wonder who that 3.5x guy was.

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                  • rayword45
                    Local Teenage Wastebasket
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3212

                    #24
                    Re: Optimal arrow speed?

                    Err, I can see how crappy my wording is. Let me try again.

                    At 31 to 60 FPS, my scoring ability drops considerably. I assume this has to do with the timing system being based upon 30 frames.

                    So I play at 30 FPS. I only play at 2.75x because trying to read any higher speed mods at this framerate looks like shit.

                    I've seen the game run at like 3.25x or higher at 60FPS and I can read that just fine but I can't play due to the framerate.
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                    • MinaciousGrace
                      FFR Player
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 4278

                      #25
                      Re: Optimal arrow speed?

                      i tihnk arrow speed should be optional and you can turn it off if you want

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                      • LordCarlos
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 52

                        #26
                        Re: Optimal arrow speed?

                        Originally posted by rayword45
                        At 31 to 60 FPS, my scoring ability drops considerably. I assume this has to do with the timing system being based upon 30 frames.

                        So I play at 30 FPS..
                        Perhaps this is the reason why people use the velocity engine? 30 FPS somehow increases scores?


                        Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                        i tihnk arrow speed should be optional and you can turn it off if you want
                        ???

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                        • mrpreggers
                          D7 Elite Keymasher
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 3393

                          #27
                          Re: Optimal arrow speed?

                          fps increase just takes time to get used to i used to struggling reading at 60 fps now i can't play properly with anything under 90

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                          • LordCarlos
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 52

                            #28
                            Re: Optimal arrow speed?

                            Originally posted by mrpreggers
                            fps increase just takes time to get used to i used to struggling reading at 60 fps now i can't play properly with anything under 90
                            But your monitor doesn't even output anything faster than 60fps.

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