Should we consider double setup "legit"

[gold stinger]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

at this point in time I would like to say that I used Double Key Setup to get my vROFL score and if a mod happens to see this I would greatly appreciate it if the score could be removed thanks

[gold stinger]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

I'm a naughty boy

[hi19hi19]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

Icy, nobody is stopping you from playing double setup.

What we're reacting to is the fact you want to compare them to single setup scores as if you're doing nothing different.
I'm sure people would be fine (certainly, I would) if you posted DS scores and specifically said you were playing DS in them.
But leaving out that qualifier would make people mad, yes.

[Zon Fire]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

Crowdpleaser

[Sidek]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

double bs setup.

[Juggalo702]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

You shoulda made a button for a "Hell No" vote.

[mrpreggers]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

Yes, that's why this thread was made, to appeal the possibilities of having said rule removed.

no it's too big you dongus so is yours and a lot of others edit your sigs why do mine get taken down for being a few pixels too big H U H

[Dynam0]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

1) Scores would have to be qualified as DS because I really can't imagine a world where 4-finger spread is the less-dominant play-style..so the "legit" factor is comparable to prefacing your scoreposts with "these were on J1 L1 settings and 0.6x rate".

2) Too hard to master. Only reasonably effective for specific pattern types akin to two handed tapping in Guitar Hero.

3) I will allow it if someone manages to AA Yanah's Crash using this style

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

I have read the entire thread and decided to vote no.

I relate it to bowling. Imagine if you could throw two balls at once! It would be hard to master, but once people did, scores would be better because they've mastered a much harder skill and deserve better scores!

[rushyrulz]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

using double setup also becomes a hardware issue because it requires you to use an outside program to rebind keys on your keyboard to the first set of 4 keys for playing. On top of that, keyboards for sure cannot handle 8 keys being pressed all at the same time, which would require a person to use 2 keyboards to participate in the 8 key setup properly.

Not necessarily true. You can use numpad directionals to register on top of your keybinds.

[andy-o24]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

If you really want double setup to be something that has competition, put it on another engine with files charted in a way that suggest double setup is the proper way to approach it. Just like files in FFR have had a clear indicator whether it was made for spread or whether it was made for index, the files on this engine would have to indicate double setup is the intended play style. There is no reason to try and legitimize a setup that is only beneficial for dumpy files and then allow a flood of those dumps into the game for people who don't want to master the technique to suffer through.

Feel free to use it if you want, but clarify that it's a double setup score. If you really want this to go somewhere, make a specialized engine.

-o24

[Tyson ultima]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

The game was originally meant to be played with arrow keys just sayin'

[choof]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

That's completely different from YOU playing with 4 fingers and YOU playing with 8 fingers, or 2, or 3 or 1. We've changed this mentality in the past. It's not cheating to to play on a keyboard compared to pad because it's still YOU playing.

keyboard mentality, for ffr specifically, will never go beyond "4 fingers, 4 keys"
double setup will almost assuredly never be taken seriously; index and one-handed scores are barely taken seriously nowadays unless they're from unbelievably good players (etienne, bynary, etc), and generally those scores would be insane even on spread

a huge part of it would be pattern manipulation. any jack that's beyond your skill with 4k spread would be trivialized with a double setup: it turns the jack into a trill, two totally different patterns.

let's also take into consideration how much double setup would segregate the community further. someone brought up this idea, but also look at it from a new player standpoint.

I would also argue that encouraging double setup, along with making files that cater to the playstyle, would have new simfile artists totally skipping over fundamentals and shitting out even worse files. this already happens now, with a playstyle that's been the norm for 10 years.


and lastly, double setup, when abbreviated, is "ds." darkshark was also known as "ds." you see where I'm going here.

[choof]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

The game was originally meant to be played with arrow keys just sayin'

ya, too bad playing on arrow keys limits your ability based on factors that are out of your control

[lurker]

Re: Should we consider double setup "legit"

well mayb if we did what that guy on trihex's stream and that dude who joined ffr 2 months ago said and only make files that are doable on pad we wouldn't be dealing with this bullshit!!!!!!