Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

[Hateandhatred]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

It makes story of snowman and sunshine girl infinitely easier.

[mi40]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

turns out all the other files get infinitely harder too

[Choofers]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

huh yeah it does but legacy files shouldn't still be in game

[Hateandhatred]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

huh yeah it does but legacy files shouldn't still be in game

Or at least, they shouldn't matter, like ok we keep them, but we're not gonne REALLY use them as arguments rofl...

Otherwise I dunno, some runningmen become easier for me, same with a few other patterns.

I struggle to FC the runningmen on Holy Orders 1.X, I can AAA with ease on 1.2.

However as far as contributing to the op, well yeah, maybe it should. not sure whats all around shit, but I'd approve it!

[mi40]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

yes but all the other parts and jacks in holy orders on 1.2 have now made that file that much harder

nobody on stepmania ever said "that file has runningmen that's easier on 1.2 ur score doesnt count"

[HalfStep]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

I struggle to FC the runningmen on Holy Orders 1.X, I can AAA with ease on 1.2.

Good luck with the 32nd trill on 1.2 lol

[Choofers]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

those jacks on 1.2 are easier too <____>

[I like it]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

yes

[Frank Munoz]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

Isn't this kinda like the "mirror" fiasco that isn't really a problem anymore?
Since the majority of ffr players are left handicapped, and switching the very difficult left trills/jacks to right trills/jacks with the mirror option was sorta cheating. But we use mirror anyways cause "it doesn't change the intention of the original chart".

Is speeding up the chart to 1.1 and above really degrading the step artists intentions enough to void a recorded score?

[Tyson ultima]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

meh long repetetive songs become alot more playable in simple streams. You guys are only mentioning high leveled stuff but lower leveled stuff isn't played too much because of how long and monotonous it is. I would kind of agree to multiply the overall score by the rate used. score times 1.1x. so base score multiplied by the rate used for the score.

[mi40]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

frank munoz, people playing somebody's chart on higher rates is actually an honor i think haha

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

I'm for it, the trade off in the difficulty of the rest of the file is more than enough to make up any slim advantage gained from upping the speed.

Has anyone tried Within Life on rates, btw?

[Choofers]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

Isn't this kinda like the "mirror" fiasco that isn't really a problem anymore?
Since the majority of ffr players are left handicapped, and switching the very difficult left trills/jacks to right trills/jacks with the mirror option was sorta cheating. But we use mirror anyways cause "it doesn't change the intention of the original chart".

Is speeding up the chart to 1.1 and above really degrading the step artists intentions enough to void a recorded score?

Comparing mirror to rates doesn't make much sense, mirror is changing patterns completely and rates make the same patterns harder to hit.

And it can be taken two ways, really. Either a file is so boring that putting it on rates allows you to AAA it faster (which makes it so you never have to play that file again), or a file has interesting enough patterns that playing it on rates is tons of fun. One example would be Gradius: Really fun index file on 1.0, awesome stream chart on 1.4+

[Frank Munoz]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

frank munoz, people playing somebody's chart on higher rates is actually an honor i think haha

yea, i feel the same way!
My last sentence is a question just in case some of yall didn't notice.

@choof,
Yea i know that obvious difference,
the only reason I compared the two is because the judgement of how mirror was accepted by "not changing the artist' original intentions" should apply to rates as well.

I'm all for rates *****.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

Re: Why aren't rates above 1.0 counting for scores?

I'm against the idea of having rates count for levelranks. Can you imagine playing Sail Away on 1.5x? It doesn't sound fun to listen to, at least IMO. If rates count and people use them often, many people will be missing out on listening to some great music. >.<