Value of the credit and credit sinks

[*ELUSIVE*]

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Getting the community to be closer together through events is hardly a concern in my opinion. It allows for people to have fun and be rewarded both physically, and socially, through affiliating themselves with others who share similar interests they do. If anything hosting events, Spon Cons, and official (as well as custom) tournaments make Flash Flash Revolution stronger, not weaker.

Also the credit cap is 120, and it is actually rather simple to build up credits in the game if you take the time to practice and improve. Having secret and purchased songs (as well as skill / normal / support / event tokens) gives users more to do as their skill progresses. This game has a TON of content, but more invested players will eventually improve and complete all the songs, and no doubt strive to unlock everything they can. This is why new songs and tokens are always being added, so that way we can keep the interests of the experienced players as well as the newer ones.

Yes, but this still doesn't resolve the problem of the average joe...It's like saying "hey if you hang around us cool kids a lot and do stuff to entertain us we will reward you" - LOL ok maybe not quite that harsh, but I would like to think someone can achieve unlocking all the purchased and secret songs without taking bets, donations, civil service, etc...but that's just not true unless you have very good skills or A LOT of time. And i mean A LOT of time haha

EDIT: take me for example. I average 8 a game. If i count that every game lasts 2 minutes and I want to get 200000 credits, that means I need to play 200000/8 * 2/60 = 833 hours of FFR. Doesn't that seem a bit ridiculous to you? Even if we take improvement into account, I will never get more than 15 a game which means a minimum of 400 hours. That's....tough to deal with lol

[*ELUSIVE*]

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It's Marissa from the touhou games ^_^

Ah,that's why I couldn't figure it out, I was thinking anime when it's a game character haha

[qqwref]

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I would like to think someone can achieve unlocking all the purchased and secret songs without taking bets, donations, civil service, etc...but that's just not true unless you have very good skills or A LOT of time. And i mean A LOT of time haha

Maybe. But as a beginner you're not missing much IMO. All the expensive purchased and secret songs are difficulties of at least 50 or so, and most are in the mid 60s and higher - so you basically wouldn't be able to read the charts. It does take a lot of time or good skills, but it also takes a lot of time to develop good skills, so if you spend that time on FFR you'll get as many credits as you need surprisingly quickly. And as you get better you'll unlock new stuff and keep having goals to shoot for. It's a great way to keep people motivated to improve, and it's not like there aren't enough songs available already - there are somewhere around 1000 songs that every new user can play, and it's increasing all the time. So if that isn't enough, then having 250k free credits won't help either.

And you'll definitely be able to get way more than 15 credits per game eventually, lol. Just work on full comboing. If you can play a song with about 600 notes and full combo it, that's about 15 credits already. Full combo a song double the length and it's 30 credits. If you work on getting better at the game itself, you'll be surprised how fast you can get to the level where 1000+ note full combos are quite doable.

[*ELUSIVE*]

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Maybe. But as a beginner you're not missing much IMO. All the expensive purchased and secret songs are difficulties of at least 50 or so, and most are in the mid 60s and higher - so you basically wouldn't be able to read the charts. It does take a lot of time or good skills, but it also takes a lot of time to develop good skills, so if you spend that time on FFR you'll get as many credits as you need surprisingly quickly. And as you get better you'll unlock new stuff and keep having goals to shoot for. It's a great way to keep people motivated to improve, and it's not like there aren't enough songs available already - there are somewhere around 1000 songs that every new user can play, and it's increasing all the time. So if that isn't enough, then having 250k free credits won't help either.

And you'll definitely be able to get way more than 15 credits per game eventually, lol. Just work on full comboing. If you can play a song with about 600 notes and full combo it, that's about 15 credits already. Full combo a song double the length and it's 30 credits. If you work on getting better at the game itself, you'll be surprised how fast you can get to the level where 1000+ note full combos are quite doable.

Fair enough, points well made.

[popsicle_3000]

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I'm doing well for myself so far..11,116 profit. If i have some decent luck doing what i did yesterday from 19.5k to 600k and get out while i'm on top .. I'll be k.

what tarrik is back?

Yes, but this still doesn't resolve the problem of the average joe...It's like saying "hey if you hang around us cool kids a lot and do stuff to entertain us we will reward you" - LOL ok maybe not quite that harsh, but I would like to think someone can achieve unlocking all the purchased and secret songs without taking bets, donations, civil service, etc...but that's just not true unless you have very good skills or A LOT of time. And i mean A LOT of time haha

EDIT: take me for example. I average 8 a game. If i count that every game lasts 2 minutes and I want to get 200000 credits, that means I need to play 200000/8 * 2/60 = 833 hours of FFR. Doesn't that seem a bit ridiculous to you? Even if we take improvement into account, I will never get more than 15 a game which means a minimum of 400 hours. That's....tough to deal with lol

i got vet just from playing, not a single tournament, and had the purchased songs as well. took me 5 years (which is including site downtime). it's possible

[qqwref]

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I kind of feel like anyone who kept gambling after they got into the negatives should be banned (at least temporarily) for exploiting the gambling hall bugs. The only reason someone would push themself even further into the negatives is to make credits appear out of nowhere (even if they weren't the one who got them), and nobody gets down to minus three million credits by accident. It's obvious way before that point that you are doing something that isn't supposed to be done.

[psychoangel691]

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I kind of feel like anyone who kept gambling after they got into the negatives should be banned (at least temporarily) for exploiting the gambling hall bugs. The only reason to push yourself even further into the negatives is to make credits appear out of nowhere (even if they weren't the one who got them), and nobody gets down to minus three million credits by accident. It's obvious way before that point that you are doing something that isn't supposed to be done.

It was discussed but it was also about 30 active members that would've been banned.

[qqwref]

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If they all broke the rules in a serious way, what's wrong with banning them all? As long as the ban isn't permanent it will be a good lesson.

[psychoangel691]

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If they all broke the rules in a serious way, what's wrong with banning them all? As long as the ban isn't permanent it will be a good lesson.

Ask the hundreds of free user threads we'd see if we did lol. On a serious note though I don't have the list of who all did it so I have no control over it. Jon would have to weigh in on it.

[Untimely Friction]

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Gambling hall sux yo

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[SK8R43]

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Gambling hall sux yo

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Nice doin business with you

Started with 6k, now at 125k hehehe

[Untimely Friction]

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Nice doin business with you

Started with 6k, now at 125k hehehe

I was the one doing 100's not much more lol. Started at 400, ended at 0 again.

[SK8R43]

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I was the one doing 100's not much more lol. Started at 400, ended at 0 again.

lol yeah im probably the one winning all of your credits, been winning MOST of my bets all day lol

[Hakulyte]

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ZzZzZzz..

[popsicle_3000]

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RIP