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  • noname219
    FFR Wiki Admin
    • May 2007
    • 1694

    #106
    Re: Rate Your FFR File

    Before starting this, I was expecting that easier files would rank generally lower than harder ones.
    I love when I'm playing a hard file and being able to PA a part I wasn't able to do before. That's a satisfaction I can't really find on easier files.
    The scores I need to get on easier files are mostly AAA or very low SDG... When I hit a good, I get annoyed and I find myself stupid for missing that note.
    But I agree that some easier files are very very well stepped and they should get more recognition.

    EDIT : Also adding TheSaxRunner right now.

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    • hi19hi19
      lol happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #107
      Re: Rate Your FFR File

      The easy files give less room to show "technical brilliance" or whatever it is people are looking for.

      Less notes = fewer opportunities to be memorable.

      Is it fair? idk, that's why we have a lot of people judging (ideally)


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      • Rebirth0
        FFR Originalbro
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jun 2003
        • 8751

        #108
        Re: Rate Your FFR File

        lol my Your Grace file might be the lowest ranked song in the whole list at 0.67

        I never wanted any of my widget files to go in the real game because people hate trashy easy rock songs but Tass had to be Tass -_-

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        • iironiic
          D6 FFR Legacy Player
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2009
          • 4342

          #109
          Re: Rate Your FFR File

          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          The easy files give less room to show "technical brilliance" or whatever it is people are looking for.

          Less notes = fewer opportunities to be memorable.

          Is it fair? idk, that's why we have a lot of people judging (ideally)
          Just because easier songs have fewer opportunities to make it memorable doesn't mean they deserved low ratings. ):

          Oh well, I don't have a say in FFR's overall opinion anyways. Never mind about what I just said.

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          • j-rodd123
            End of the road
            • Oct 2006
            • 3692

            #110
            Re: Rate Your FFR File

            well it's completely subjective lol. Of course most of the people who are rating aren't going to give 10s to free space and power. Just look at their skillset, I don't see many D1s rating haha

            Originally posted by FictionJunction
            wow

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            • bmah
              shots FIRED
              Profile Moderator
              FFR Simfile Author
              Global Moderator
              • Oct 2003
              • 8448

              #111
              Re: Rate Your FFR File

              Originally posted by iironiic
              Just because easier songs have fewer opportunities to make it memorable doesn't mean they deserved low ratings. ):

              Oh well, I don't have a say in FFR's overall opinion anyways. Never mind about what I just said.
              Well no, you do have a valid point. If you're a lower-levelled player, then you'll definitely find these "easier" (quotations because it's entirely relative) songs much more fun.

              Regardless, the data that is being composed here is completely inappropriate for any sort of accurate statistics. Just view the data here with a grain of salt, since they don't have much meaning across the site. I would be more concerned if the point of this thread was to make a remotely serious set of statistics, but that doesn't seem to be the case. No specific parameter on a song is being specified, so it's just a bunch of opinions from a small handful of participants (probably many with shoddy memories on most songs).

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              • noname219
                FFR Wiki Admin
                • May 2007
                • 1694

                #112
                Re: Rate Your FFR File

                @ iironiic : That point you brought is very interesting : why most of veteran users tend to avoid easier files?

                Originally posted by bmah
                Regardless, the data that is being composed here is completely inappropriate for any sort of accurate statistics. Just view the data here with a grain of salt, since they don't have much meaning across the site. I would be more concerned if the point of this thread was to make a remotely serious set of statistics, but that doesn't seem to be the case. No specific parameter on a song is being specified, so it's just a bunch of opinions from a small handful of participants (probably many with shoddy memories on most songs).
                The only parameter I asked was how did you like the song. There's many more parameters that are directly linked to this but I wanted to keep it simple.
                I am more interested in finding a way to analyze what can't be analyzed. It's pretty much the same process when critics rate a new album: you can't be objective because there's too many factors to take into account and we don't have any scientific guide to determine what makes good music.
                Same thing for this project. The list isn't induced for reference purposes, it was made because I was curious about others' opinion and this way was the best I found to measure that. It's soft science, you shouldn't take this list as a guide.

                I was hoping people would play every song before rating (that's what I'm doing and some others do, so thanks in advance), but that would be asking too much. EDIT : and I can't control that either.

                Can you give me examples of statistics or parameters you wished to see? I'm interested to see if and how I can improve on that.
                Last edited by noname219; 09-7-2012, 10:32 PM.

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                • bmah
                  shots FIRED
                  Profile Moderator
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  Global Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8448

                  #113
                  Re: Rate Your FFR File

                  Originally posted by noname219
                  Can you give me examples of statistics or parameters you wished to see? I'm interested to see if and how I can improve on that.
                  Oh, for your purposes, I don't think you need to add any more. Even when rating "how much people like this song and that song", you're only getting the data from a small number of participants, particularly ones within the community who tend to have strong opinions on certain songs, etc.

                  If you do want to add more parameters for the fun of it though, how about seeing which length of time people tend to prefer the most? (e.g. 0:00-1:00, 1:00-2:00,...,~9:00)
                  That's just an example and not really a great one because most songs will fall within a few ranges. Another example would be which bpm range people tend to like the most. You'd need to go to the song information thread and gather the bpms for the songs though. There are many other factors to consider if you'd like.

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                  • Wayward Vagabond
                    Confirmed Heartbreaker
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 5866

                    #114
                    Re: Rate Your FFR File

                    All of my lower rated files are my easy files lol

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                    • noname219
                      FFR Wiki Admin
                      • May 2007
                      • 1694

                      #115
                      Re: Rate Your FFR File

                      I guess bpm-length-difficulty could be included in a near future, but, at this point, I want to see how the list progress. (it was created only 5 days ago ^^)

                      And I don't really know if anyone has difficulties loading the page because the document is starting to be quite big...

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                      • Wayward Vagabond
                        Confirmed Heartbreaker
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 5866

                        #116
                        Re: Rate Your FFR File

                        I haven't had problems loading not even on my phone

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                        • Crazyjayde
                          FFR Veteran
                          • May 2007
                          • 1169

                          #117
                          Re: Rate Your FFR File

                          I sincerely do not see how this thread cannot seriously represent statistically the rating of a song quality-wise. I think it's the absolute opposite and that everything that composes the critical process is altered by subjectivity. For example, we could just be talking about technicality and we'd observe a change in perspective as to what seems correct or not.

                          Though I believe with a smallest rating scale and a definite grade, statistics would tend less to be scattered. Let's say on a scale of 5 with a gradation of 0.2. Just what I think.

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                          • Wayward Vagabond
                            Confirmed Heartbreaker
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 5866

                            #118
                            Re: Rate Your FFR File

                            This thing needs a bigger sample size with more low end players participating

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                            • LongGone
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                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1679

                              #119
                              Re: Rate Your FFR File

                              There needs to be some form of statistic of the player's skill level when voting (e.g. D1~6? Highest FC or AAA?) for reasons already mentioned

                              It'd be nice too if you could put the difficulty of each files in the "best rated" and "most rated" to see the bias towards a specific difficulty range (atm its incredibly biased towards 60+ files, rofl)
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                              Originally posted by Choofers
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                              • Xx{Midnight}xX
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 8548

                                #120
                                Re: Rate Your FFR File

                                So I tried to get a few other people to post this

                                but since they're all ****ing idiots

                                The artist for Epilogue requested that his artist name for the chart be changed to "Stephen Rezza" so it has been changed in game, and you should change it for the spread sheet please.

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