13th Official Tournament

[Bach96]

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I was actually really hype for most of the charts this tournament. It's really a shame to see that being said but, I've said it before and I'll say it again if you guys can do a better job please by all means run tournaments. Would be nice for there to be more going on.

I understand why he is a little bothered simply because it's the OT. We could all run tourney's until we're collapsing from exhaustion, but the one everyone cares about at the end of the day... is the OT.

It's hard to please everyone and there will unfortunately never be a way to. However, as I'm sure you know having been doing this so long, criticism can often lead to huge improvements. Maybe there could be a discord discussion done after each OT moving forward. Things like file choice and difficulty could be openly debated on and could result in improvements that nobody would have thought of in the past.

Maybe a more open discussion could also lead to ideas that would improve retention rates from tourney to tourney (maybe even getting more people involved). I'd be very interested in seeing what a large group of people from this awesome community would be able to come up with instead of forcing all the workload onto a small group of dedicated admin.

That being said, I personally really enjoyed this tournament. I went from 49 to almost 56. Like half my top 15 are now 13th OT files lol. Most of the songs chosen for D2 were goddamn bops and I am so appreciative of that. I only really didn't like CHERRY DOLL and Oedo Pop (simply the songs themselves not the files). Hopefully next year I can be in D4!

[Sanjixcon]

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First I want to say thank you to all the step artists and other people involved who keep these tournaments going ffr would not be as fun without you. However, I do kind of agree with Dynam0 (at least for the D5-D8 files). I can't say anything about the D1-D4 songs since I didn't play them. Not saying all the D5+ stuff was bad because there were some really nice ones mixed in... but the majority felt pretty awkward/unintuitive. Please don't kill me :] it's just my opinion after playing thousands and thousands of files between ffr/etterna.

[psychoangel691]

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I understand why he is a little bothered simply because it's the OT. We could all run tourney's until we're collapsing from exhaustion, but the one everyone cares about at the end of the day... is the OT.

It's hard to please everyone and there will unfortunately never be a way to. However, as I'm sure you know having been doing this so long, criticism can often lead to huge improvements. Maybe there could be a discord discussion done after each OT moving forward. Things like file choice and difficulty could be openly debated on and could result in improvements that nobody would have thought of in the past.

Maybe a more open discussion could also lead to ideas that would improve retention rates from tourney to tourney (maybe even getting more people involved). I'd be very interested in seeing what a large group of people from this awesome community would be able to come up with instead of forcing all the workload onto a small group of dedicated admin.

That being said, I personally really enjoyed this tournament. I went from 49 to almost 56. Like half my top 15 are now 13th OT files lol. Most of the songs chosen for D2 were goddamn bops and I am so appreciative of that. I only really didn't like CHERRY DOLL and Oedo Pop (simply the songs themselves not the files). Hopefully next year I can be in D4!

Literally has nothing to do with workload, these are the files submitted to us. don't like em? sub files then to help (I'm saying this as an in general because people always want to complain but then don't actually bother to submit or the like)

(also playing fall guys so haven't had a chance for a full reply)

[mi40]

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okay so!
my favorite files were:

circle pit
we want to run

[mi40]

Re: 13th Official Tournament

also woo credits!! finally i can play the secret section songs
and for my skill token of choice for grinding to top 8, i would love strangeprogram v0!

[kurisushadow]

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Oi! To all the negative nancies.....FUCK YOU.
Also thanks for all the hard workers who ARE helping FFR and OT.
With love,
Squidbits.

PS. Some of us were thinking it I just said it out loud. If I'm banned I get it so I'll say I love you all now just in case I can't later. Kis kis


PSS. Yams

[User1176756]

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Favorite Files: Trap Funk and Circle Pit
Favorite Songs: Ventablack and Naive Hopelessness

[xXOpkillerXx]

Re: 13th Official Tournament

Oi! To all the negative nancies.....FUCK YOU.
Also thanks for all the hard workers who ARE helping FFR and OT.
With love,
Squidbits.

PS. Some of us were thinking it I just said it out loud. If I'm banned I get it so I'll say I love you all now just in case I can't later. Kis kis


PSS. Yams

I believe the criticism has been pretty respectful; kinda weird to tell anyone "fuck you" ngl, though idk who you're targetting exactly.

That being said, I had a fun time even though we (D8) got blasted with stuffcore music beyond belief. All that matters is I beat klimt on more rounds than he did (jkjk you won). Ok bye~

[Matthia]

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Favorite Files: Trap Funk and Circle Pit
Favorite Songs: Ventablack and Naive Hopelessness

<3 ;D

[psychoangel691]

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I believe the criticism has been pretty respectful; kinda weird to tell anyone "fuck you" ngl, though idk who you're targetting exactly.

That being said, I had a fun time even though we (D8) got blasted with stuffcore music beyond belief. All that matters is I beat klimt on more rounds than he did (jkjk you won). Ok bye~

You've definitely missed some of it then.

I rolled with the files on hand, I could moving forward hold off on doing OTs until we have perfect file lineups but no one wants that either. Thing is I've adjusted over and over again just for more complaints so *shrugs* no matter what someone is unhappy.

[Bach96]

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You've definitely missed some of it then.

I rolled with the files on hand, I could moving forward hold off on doing OTs until we have perfect file lineups but no one wants that either. Thing is I've adjusted over and over again just for more complaints so *shrugs* no matter what someone is unhappy.

I really hope that what I was saying earlier didn't come off as disrespectful. If so, apologies!

Just figured I'd bring up the idea of constant improvement to avoid stagnation.

Something something people keep leaving :/

[psychoangel691]

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I really hope that what I was saying earlier didn't come off as disrespectful. If so, apologies!

Just figured I'd being up the idea of constant improvement to avoid stagnation.

Something something people keep leaving :/

People leaving has nothing to do with the OTs though.

[DarknessXoXLight]

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I'll say it again if you guys can do a better job please by all means run tournaments. Would be nice for there to be more going on.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who used to love what this site once was who want to see activity and well run tournaments. I would love to be in a position to run a tournament with all new content for the community, but you built up such a wall around this glorious title of "Tournament Organizer" locking yourself into running it alone and then when people complain about very evident problems, you just say we should be appreciative? Valid criticism should be taken as a sign that people still care about a properly run tournament being fun and fair. I know many people have offered to help with official tournaments, but since you tie so much of your own personal and emotional worth staked on how much power you hold over this dumb website, nobody is willing to go through the shit they have to to contribute anything. You've made it abundantly clear numerous times that you hold 100% of the power and decision making over this tournament but when a file like Circle Pit is very poorly slotted it's suddenly AJ's fault for giving you the rating so you say go talk to AJ? You absolve yourself of blame on a very regular basis. Mistakes happen, nobody is perfect, own up to it for once or admit that you don't do as much as you claim to do. If you were willing to address the areas that you aren't completely comfortable with doing, which is fine, people would be able to step in and make the tournament as a whole a lot funner and cleaner.

This site is never going to be what it once was because of how poorly run it currently is and your refusal to accept help from anybody competent.

[TheSaxRunner05]

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I think that's a bit harsh, it's one thing to say "please take constructive feedback" and it's another to "throw the baby out with the bath water" and say FFR can never return to some lost glory days because of a few blips during and OT. Seemed to me to go quite smoothly, and one or two songs out of place isn't ruining the entire site or something.

[danredge]

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I'm sure there are plenty of people who used to love what this site once was who want to see activity and well run tournaments. I would love to be in a position to run a tournament with all new content for the community, but you built up such a wall around this glorious title of "Tournament Organizer" locking yourself into running it alone and then when people complain about very evident problems, you just say we should be appreciative? Valid criticism should be taken as a sign that people still care about a properly run tournament being fun and fair. I know many people have offered to help with official tournaments, but since you tie so much of your own personal and emotional worth staked on how much power you hold over this dumb website, nobody is willing to go through the shit they have to to contribute anything. You've made it abundantly clear numerous times that you hold 100% of the power and decision making over this tournament but when a file like Circle Pit is very poorly slotted it's suddenly AJ's fault for giving you the rating so you say go talk to AJ? You absolve yourself of blame on a very regular basis. Mistakes happen, nobody is perfect, own up to it for once or admit that you don't do as much as you claim to do. If you were willing to address the areas that you aren't completely comfortable with doing, which is fine, people would be able to step in and make the tournament as a whole a lot funner and cleaner.

This site is never going to be what it once was because of how poorly run it currently is and your refusal to accept help from anybody competent.

I think you should keed that kind of comment to yourself or private message the aporopriate person, because this was just harsh.I think Kayla and AJ are the heart of FFR and deserve respect. If you really want to help FFR join the staff.