Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

[psychoangel691]

So for the last 5? officials at this point we've been using all new files for every round in every division. As you can imagine this can sometimes make things tough and hold up start dates trying to fill in all those slots with files that are of proper difficulty.

I was thinking about maybe going back to how it was done in (I believe it was the 5th official) where the files were selected from those in game already aside from the final round. I think this may be better with summer already creeping around the corner but I wanted to see what everyone's opinion was on this.

Leave a vote in the poll above and mention why you feel that way.


Thanks!

[YoshL]

Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

can you create an option for "i don't mind what happens", because I'm okay with either structure for the tournament

[ilikexd]

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I think new charts make it more exciting, fun, and competitive and that it increases the interest or "hype". It, to me, is one of the things that makes it stand out the most from the unofficial tournaments.

The only two reasons I can think of for not doing this are that not enough new charts have been through submission and acceptance to fill all round slots, and at a certain point the game becomes flooded with content.

I don't think there's a good reason to change how it currently is unless there is actually no prospect of filling slots, which is not really a good reason as much as doing so out of necessity. Although judgement has stagnated, there is still the option of creating some streamlined process strictly for the official that still ensures a sufficient level of quality control.

[psychoangel691]

Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

I think new charts make it more exciting, fun, and competitive and that it increases the interest or "hype". It, to me, is one of the things that makes it stand out the most from the unofficial tournaments.

The only two reasons I can think of for not doing this are that not enough new charts have been through submission and acceptance to fill all round slots, and at a certain point the game becomes flooded with content.

I don't think there's a good reason to change how it currently is unless there is actually no prospect of filling slots, which is not really a good reason as much as doing so out of necessity. Although judgement has stagnated, there is still the option of creating some streamlined process strictly for the official that still ensures a sufficient level of quality control.

As of right now there's no way the official will happen in the summer if it's all new charts. There's not enough in queue and things are backed up. Finding the right charts to fill out that many rounds in that many divisions that are of appropriate difficulty is difficult when things are running normally. How things are now I would anticipate the tournament wouldn't start till late September.

[Gradiant]

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How things are now I would anticipate the tournament wouldn't start till late September.

I would be fine with this if it means getting new material every week for the tournament, that's one of my favorite parts of participating in them. The backlogging of files should start getting taken care of soon too as the judge applications recently started which should help out.

[mrpreggers]

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guess i'm the only no here rip i'd rather wait a few months for you guys to amass new files than play old files we've scored well on/mindblocked

[User1176756]

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C'mon guys. You got over 1700 public songs and you need more for an official? It just shows how spoiled the community is. Even I feel like some songs are new when I'm asked to play them in a tournament nowadays.

[ilikexd]

Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

As of right now there's no way the official will happen in the summer if it's all new charts. There's not enough in queue and things are backed up. Finding the right charts to fill out that many rounds in that many divisions that are of appropriate difficulty is difficult when things are running normally. How things are now I would anticipate the tournament wouldn't start till late September.

I don't mean to hijack this thread by going too far off onto a tangent, but I think that, as a whole, the mass of submissions that are still pending judgement could cover the greater part of what would be at most 7x10 slots, and that slots at either end of the difficulty spectrum can be specifically filled if needed as per usual. It's just that the ratio of the amount of effort it takes to process and accept content for the game to the ratio that it takes simply to create that content is so monstrous that it has historically reflected in backups and lateness and now in this case stagnation. I simply don't think that the current process under a reduction in activity can persist; in fact, it already has ceased, and that doesn't bode well for organizing activity-producing events such as the official tournament. But I know that it's a quite inopportune time to implement or even contemplate such drastic changes given the calamity of recent events.

[psychoangel691]

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I had to run out so I'll reply more when I get home. I'll add poll options for neutral as well as mix of new and old files.

[ilikexd]

Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

guess i'm the only no here rip i'd rather wait a few months for you guys to amass new files than play old files we've scored well on/mindblocked

I would be fine with this if it means getting new material every week for the tournament, that's one of my favorite parts of participating in them. The backlogging of files should start getting taken care of soon too as the judge applications recently started which should help out.

For what it's worth, I also agree with this. If needed I think it would be better to wait.

However I would stress that summer really is the best time for the official given it's when everyone has the most free time and activity and the community peaks.

[Deadlyx39]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but official last year was late September right?
Anyway it seemed to me as a spectator last year that the new files made everything look so much nicer to me as a person who hadn't been on the site in quite a while.
It makes it look like the community cares a lot about the official to people who may be like me who haven't been on the site in a long time.

[Zageron]

Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

There is always an option of reducing "Songs of the Week" to "Song" of the week, to help accelerate the growth of the back-log. Is that a feasible idea?

[choof]

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i would be perfectly fine reusing old files and not putting players on a more level ground
i would also be perfectly fine reusing old files and not clearing up the backlog of files

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

I much rather prefer playing old files with only the last two rounds being the only rounds with new songs. The game is over saturated with files that receive very little plays because of all the songs that the game currently has already. So unless we start retiring files I would much rather recycle songs for the tourney than use new ones all the time. There were no complaints with this before I don't see why there should be any now

[psychoangel691]

Re: Should the FFR Official Tournament Only Use New Files?

From my own personal standpoint, I'm leaning towards having a mix of old and new files for the tournament for a few of the reasons already mentioned such as the game really is pretty saturated already, and it's extremely difficult to fill all slots with brand new content. Every official we end up reaching out for internal files from people because we can't fill the slots and it's caused drama.