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  • MikeShinoda12345
    *\(^o^)/*
    • Oct 2008
    • 1890

    #196
    Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

    i've lost a net 425k in the gambling hall
    i'm not going anywhere near that place again

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    • benny58624
      FFR Veteran
      • May 2014
      • 352

      #197
      Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

      Originally posted by foxfire667
      Are you just taking any old wager or making any old bet? Believe it or not there is a method to getting fairly consistent gains from the gambling hall, barring some unholy awful luck.

      Basically as you win more you have a greater chance of losing and vice-versa. So what you want to do essentially is bet less or take a smaller wager when you win, and do the opposite when you lose. The more times you lose, the higher your next bet or wager taken should be, and the opposite for winning.
      Are you trolling or don't you know this?

      The site doesn't use your previous wins/loses to calculate your winning chance (right?) So each time you have a 50% chance at winning.
      Example: if you rolled a 6 on a dice five times in a row, what is the chance that you will roll a 6 again next roll? The chance is still 1/6 because the dice doesn't remember your previous rolls.
      More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

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      • rushyrulz
        Digital Dancing!
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2006
        • 12985

        #198
        Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

        Originally posted by benny58624
        Are you trolling or don't you know this?

        The site doesn't use your previous wins/loses to calculate your winning chance (right?) So each time you have a 50% chance at winning.
        Example: if you rolled a 6 on a dice five times in a row, what is the chance that you will roll a 6 again next roll? The chance is still 1/6 because the dice doesn't remember your previous rolls.
        More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
        Originally posted by rushyrulz
        Expected Value and YOU
        ^^


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        • ItsOnlyDanO
          Stuck in the past
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2013
          • 1168

          #199
          Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

          probability people

          probability
          Ghosts appear and fade away.......

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          • blindreper1179
            Vice President Of TGB
            • Jun 2006
            • 5900

            #200
            Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

            gambling is dumb, you're all dumb, stop having problems with gambling.
            Originally posted by thesunfan
            absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
            Originally posted by choof
            It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
            Originally posted by choof
            whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
            Originally posted by Celirra
            I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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            • foxfire667
              The FFRchiver
              FFR Music Producer
              • Jun 2009
              • 2169

              #201
              Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

              The singular chance of winning is always 50%, but the chance of winning (or losing) a certain amount of times will always be smaller than the singular chance. The chance of winning a set number of times in this case will always be 1/2^n, where n is the number of win or loss times.

              Though this is hardly just talk however, take a look at my credit winnings from the gambling hall (keep in mind that these are hundreds upon hundreds of bets, not just a few, and that a lot of it came from the past couple days after changing my baseline to 1k instead of 50 credits):
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              • Funnygurl555
                T-Force's Rival
                • Dec 2010
                • 1865

                #202
                Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                this thread made me start using the gambling hall
                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                is funny eaman?
                Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
                Originally posted by the sun fan
                GET DUNKED FUNNY
                (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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                • j-rodd123
                  End of the road
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3692

                  #203
                  Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                  gambling is fun and i encourage it

                  Originally posted by FictionJunction
                  wow

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                  • MarcusHawkins
                    The Punny Anti-PA Guy
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 1219

                    #204
                    Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                    Originally posted by foxfire667
                    The singular chance of winning is always 50%, but the chance of winning (or losing) a certain amount of times will always be smaller than the singular chance. The chance of winning a set number of times in this case will always be 1/2^n, where n is the number of win or loss times.

                    Though this is hardly just talk however, take a look at my credit winnings from the gambling hall (keep in mind that these are hundreds upon hundreds of bets, not just a few, and that a lot of it came from the past couple days after changing my baseline to 1k instead of 50 credits):
                    What's your Best Win Streak, and your Worst Lose Streak?
                    Last edited by MarcusHawkins; 12-18-2014, 03:16 PM.

                    Originally posted by Ghost_Medley

                    This man is three months too early.
                    Originally posted by badman7772
                    Guess I'll take another Quality Pack please. I won't have Hawkins luck but I'm sure I'll have badluck7772.

                    Originally posted by _Zenith_
                    what the fuck marcus lmao

                    Originally posted by rushyrulz
                    You should all thank MarcusHawkins btw

                    Originally posted by DDRNGGin
                    Marcus is probably going to be the main man to win this (You will always be my DDR brother for life, MarcusHawkins! )

                    Originally posted by Sky Kitten
                    Best Newbie
                    1st: MarcusHawkins: 4

                    Up And Coming FFRer
                    2nd: MarcusHawkins: 3

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                    • tosh
                      O Derby, Where Art Thou?
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1018

                      #205
                      Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                      Originally posted by foxfire667
                      Though this is hardly just talk however, take a look at my credit winnings from the gambling hall (keep in mind that these are hundreds upon hundreds of bets, not just a few, and that a lot of it came from the past couple days after changing my baseline to 1k instead of 50 credits):
                      I used a similar system to you and lost quite a bit. You have to remember that someone loses a credit for each credit that you win. So while you're up 300k, that means that the rest of FFR collectively is down 300k from those particular bets.


                      I routinely had 6-7 bet losing streaks. That and combined with the fact that I was 0/13 on bets 100k and higher helps contribute to that net loss.

                      Your system is a good way to realize short-term gains, but over the long-term it will even out to zero.
                      Last edited by tosh; 12-18-2014, 03:20 PM.

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                      • rushyrulz
                        Digital Dancing!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 12985

                        #206
                        Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                        FFR eats 2% of whatever goes through the gambling hall, so someone loses a credit for each .98 credit that you win.

                        That's how we pay server costs.
                        Last edited by rushyrulz; 12-18-2014, 03:19 PM.


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                        • benny58624
                          FFR Veteran
                          • May 2014
                          • 352

                          #207
                          Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                          Originally posted by foxfire667
                          The singular chance of winning is always 50%, but the chance of winning (or losing) a certain amount of times will always be smaller than the singular chance. The chance of winning a set number of times in this case will always be 1/2^n, where n is the number of win or loss times.
                          This is true. The chance that your next 5 bets will be a win streak is 1/32. But i'm talking about conditional probabilitys: what is the chance you will win if you are already on a 4 win streak? The answer is 1/2.
                          Last edited by benny58624; 12-18-2014, 03:34 PM.

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                          • foxfire667
                            The FFRchiver
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2169

                            #208
                            Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                            Originally posted by MarcusHawkins
                            What's your Best Win Streak, and your Worst Lose Streak?
                            Best win streak: 9
                            Worst lose streak: 9

                            Also yeah if you take a larger risk you can crash and burn real hard. It's not a perfect method, it's just one that generally works quite well.

                            EDIT: Over the past few minutes I've taken several more bets...
                            Credits Won: 618498
                            Credits Lost: 306450

                            Noticing a trend?
                            Last edited by foxfire667; 12-18-2014, 03:25 PM.
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                            • MarcusHawkins
                              The Punny Anti-PA Guy
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1219

                              #209
                              Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                              If you have the credits, and use the win streaks to your advantage though, I think that profits are almost a guarantee!! (9 is a good number to look at imo)

                              Originally posted by Ghost_Medley

                              This man is three months too early.
                              Originally posted by badman7772
                              Guess I'll take another Quality Pack please. I won't have Hawkins luck but I'm sure I'll have badluck7772.

                              Originally posted by _Zenith_
                              what the fuck marcus lmao

                              Originally posted by rushyrulz
                              You should all thank MarcusHawkins btw

                              Originally posted by DDRNGGin
                              Marcus is probably going to be the main man to win this (You will always be my DDR brother for life, MarcusHawkins! )

                              Originally posted by Sky Kitten
                              Best Newbie
                              1st: MarcusHawkins: 4

                              Up And Coming FFRer
                              2nd: MarcusHawkins: 3

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                              • foxfire667
                                The FFRchiver
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 2169

                                #210
                                Re: The FFR AAAdvent Calendar

                                Originally posted by MarcusHawkins
                                If you have the credits, and use the win streaks to your advantage though, I think that profits are almost a guarantee!! (9 is a good number to look at imo)
                                How exactly would I use a winning streak to my advantage though? There's no way I could know exactly how many times I am going to win. All I know is that as I win more, the chance of winning a set of n+1 is 1/2^n+1, which doesn't seem appealing to me.
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