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  • who_cares973
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 15407

    #14536
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    Or he could just step fmo/fgo files

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    • dore
      caveman pornstar
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2006
      • 6317

      #14537
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      I'm going to do everything I can to have to play less cluster****s next batch
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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      • omgitznpv
        cohoooooon
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2005
        • 6980

        #14538
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by dore
        you can differentiate sounds without adding notes, it's not that hard

        sounds like a good excuse to layer less
        i'm aware of that- it's just less effective.

        ex: let's say you have a dominant seventh chord (like C7) along with some basic supporting percussive sound followed by the same thing + a cymbal crash. [24][124] would portray said example better than [24][14] ([14] being a more...uh...i don't know a word for it...centered? whatever jump than [24], which, in this case, would have a feeling that leads it to somewhere else, which is what the C7 chord would do). the [124] hand would have that same [24] in it to go with the C7 and the 1 to have the cymbal crash added. the [14] wouldn't simulate the effect of the dominant seventh.

        it's a specific example but still lol

        i'm not like arguing to have hands be utilized in easier files, btw, i'm just nothing something lol. besides, the vast majority of my files would end up as fmo/fgo
        Last edited by omgitznpv; 07-25-2009, 02:18 PM.
        Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
        What's the point of using drugs anyways? I heard they help you relax but that's pretty much it. (Not talking about medicines)

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        • bluguerrilla
          FFR Player
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2006
          • 3966

          #14539
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          Just put more local emphasis on the loud noise that breaks your stepping idea to reflect the more dominant part of the music rather than all of it.

          It may not be as 'elegant' but we're talking about fitting into rules here, not the best way to express it.

          löl

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          • dore
            caveman pornstar
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 6317

            #14540
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            I'm just trying to say that simpler is usually better, anyway. It may not be as technically correct but it's generally more fun to play.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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            • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
              Threat Emulation
              FFR Simfile Author
              • May 2004
              • 5184

              #14541
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              blu, you got dots on your o...

              Also, I'm working on something for this. The sync is a bitch, but the file seems to be turning out nicely. Also, 64ths.

              Originally posted by Lightdarkness
              I'm light f**king darkness

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              • Coolboyrulez0
                VICES
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Aug 2006
                • 10042

                #14542
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                blu, you got dots on your o...
                yöü göt ä pröblem with this? lol

                They are called Umlaute btw

                Also have a 'sharp s' (looks almost like beta btw): ß

                PS: Will start working on a PtH file soon
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                • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                  Threat Emulation
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2004
                  • 5184

                  #14543
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  So I lied with my last post, or at least didn't tell the whole truth, or something like that.

                  I just made another simfile for the next batch. 50 minutes from figuring out which song, to downloading to stepping. Which actually took a lot longer than it should have, but I spent some time with aesthetics. Anyways, I have another file for this.

                  Originally posted by Lightdarkness
                  I'm light f**king darkness

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                  • who_cares973
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 15407

                    #14544
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by dore
                    I'm just trying to say that simpler is usually better

                    totally subjective

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                    • stargroup
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 974

                      #14545
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by dore
                      I'm just trying to say that simpler is usually better, anyway. It may not be as technically correct but it's generally more fun to play.
                      ohohohohoho

                      you don't say that unless you're tsuka, you really don't

                      I rarely EVER play a file that is simple that I would prefer to an "artistic" file (I have to say artistic so everyone knows what I'm talking about but I also have to put quotes around it so people stop drama'ing)

                      I've always thought the no triples/quads thing was stupid and COMPLETELY restrictive, especially now that you can reconfigure keys, so I stopped stepping for ffr completely. maybe once this rule is abolished I'll make something. maybe
                      (´・ω・`)

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                      • dore
                        caveman pornstar
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 6317

                        #14546
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        I've not played the whole batch, but so far, almost none of the files which tried to step as many sounds as possible were any good. The files that were the most fun and the best from a representative standpoint were the ones that didn't try so hard. I'm not saying that you can't make a file intensely layered fun and that every simple file is automatically good, it's just good advice to most of the people currently submitting to the batches.
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                        • dood gone krazee
                          RATOOOOOOOOO
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • May 2007
                          • 1939

                          #14547
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by stargroup
                          ohohohohoho

                          you don't say that unless you're tsuka, you really don't

                          I rarely EVER play a file that is simple that I would prefer to an "artistic" file (I have to say artistic so everyone knows what I'm talking about but I also have to put quotes around it so people stop drama'ing)

                          I've always thought the no triples/quads thing was stupid and COMPLETELY restrictive, especially now that you can reconfigure keys, so I stopped stepping for ffr completely. maybe once this rule is abolished I'll make something. maybe
                          Its Tass we're talking about here, its going to take a lot more then a few people begging for the change.
                          -4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-

                          Originally posted by Sir_Thomas
                          Dood... you done gone got yourself krazee.
                          Originally posted by robertsona
                          I hear back in 12 AD Jesus Himself sent an FGO to Tass and it got a 9 by JX

                          "[++] 9/10
                          Very good file but not japanese enough ps hi jesus"

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                          • omgitznpv
                            cohoooooon
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 6980

                            #14548
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by dore
                            almost none of the files which tried to step as many sounds as possible were any good.
                            we're not talking about stepping as many sounds as possible, because that rarely works and often results in dump disasters; it's more of layering certain aspects of a song that intertwine and such and can often result in a hand. in addition, 3+ sounds only sometimes result in a hand for me.

                            simplicity can be good depending on the song itself and the objective of the file; sometimes it's not.

                            also this is getting too :hands drama:
                            Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                            What's the point of using drugs anyways? I heard they help you relax but that's pretty much it. (Not talking about medicines)

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                            • Patashu
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 8609

                              #14549
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              whenever u were going to place a hand place a 14 instead. woah problem's gone
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                              • stargroup
                                FFR Player
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 974

                                #14550
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by dore
                                I've not played the whole batch, but so far, almost none of the files which tried to step as many sounds as possible were any good. The files that were the most fun and the best from a representative standpoint were the ones that didn't try so hard.
                                Actually, these two statements don't really go well together.

                                The best files are masterful at representing the song, and DO NOT try to step as many sounds as possible. The best files find the key pieces of the song that are worthy of stepping, that bring out the flavor and essence of the music, and effectively organizes it into patterns that are the best in representing that.

                                I never said that the best files stepped a lot of sounds, but they certainly aren't simple. And on top of all this, it still doesn't justify why we can't use triples/quads.

                                Get on AIM sometime, I need to send you my stepmania lectures. hehe

                                P.S. Patashu I need to stepmania train you -__-
                                (´・ω・`)

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