Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[championanwar]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

Well done Carlos ^_^

[robertsona]

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I was bored so I made this:

HOW TO PR: AWESOME GUIDE
What PR is:
PR stands for Pitch Relevancy. It is probably the next step you should take in stepping after you learn getting melodies and rhythms down. Pitch relevancy is basically the act of stepping with relevance to the pitch of the song.
Basics:
The basics of PR say that the lower notes in a song should be stepped "lower" in the steps (e.x. left and down), and the higher should be stepped as higher steps (e.x. up and right).
Jacks:
"Jacks" (the same note repeated) should go to, obviously, the same note in the song being repeated (e.x. if the main instrument is playing, say, the "A" note over and over in 16th notes, you should step it as one of the notes repeating sixth notes (e.x. right-right-right-right-right or left-left-left-left-left)).
Scales:
There are twelve notes in any octave and four notes on the step editor. If there was a scale being played from low to high, you would most probably start at a left note and go up from there (e.x. left, down, up, right). If the scale keeps going after four notes, you start from the beginning again with a left note, and go up again.
PR in General Cases:
Let's use a random case for a song you may be stepping: if the song starts on an A note, and goes down to a C, you could do many things:
1. Step the A as a right and then the C as either an up, a down, or a left.
2. Step the A as an up and then the C as either a down or a left.
3. Step the A as a down and then the C as a left.
As you see, you cannot step the C as anything higher than the A, because it does not correspond in a music sense.
However, let's say the song, after the A and the C, then plays a G, in between the A and the C, in the musical sense. The third possibility we examined could not happen, because there is nothing in between a down note and a left note, in the stepping sense. So the only two possibilities now are:
1. Step the A as a right and then the C as either a down or a left. If you stepped the C as a down, you should step the G as an up (up is between down and right in the stepping sense). If you stepped the C as a left, you could step the G as either an up or a down (both of those are between a right and a left in the stepping sense).
2. Step the A as an up, the C as a left, and the G as a down.
Jumps and Layering In PR:
With jumps, there are six possibilities rather than four, giving you more possibilities than with single arrows. This comes to your advantage when stepping chords. However, this changes if the jumps are used for layering. For example, if there is a bass drum and a note playing at the same time, and you step both, and you decide to step the bass drum as a left, you only have three possibilities for the note (down, up, and right), because the left is already "taken up" by the bass drum. This comes to your disadvantage when stepping, and often requires you to "sacrifice" your PR for correct layering. You should almost always choose consistent layering over consistent PR, because PR has less of an effect, especially when it is for a short amount that the PR is "sacrificed".
PR in Difficult Sections:
PR in fast sections (e.x. ones with fast notes whose point on the stepping scale can't be pinpointed at normal speed) should be handled identically to rhythms in fast sections: slow down the song. While PR is not something many players pay attention to in sections with fast notes like 32nds, it should still be used for flow and feeling right. However, if utilizing PR in these sections ends in awkward patterns and/or jacks, you can "tweak" the PR to make it flow better. To slow down the song in the editor, go to the editor main menu, go to Song Options, go to Rate, and slow down the song to any comfortable speed. 0.3x rate is the slowest possible, but may be too slow for some songs, and end in choppiness. After that, use the general rules of PR to place your notes. Before you do anything related to PR in these sections, make sure you have the rhythms right (slowing down the rate will also help you with this.

I might add more later.

[kommisar[os]]

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now i don't want anyone making blatant pr mistakes anymore

[robertsona]

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**** that looks a lot more unimpressive when posted unlike when typing it

general cases is really all you need to read if you know anything

[stavie33]

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QQ more, buddy.

I can't say that you're making yourself look bad because you've already proven yourself to be an enormous idiot.

The whole I'm 'redhead/daman/stavie' is ****ing old and tiresome. As far as I know, Tass has no reason to hate redheadinferno (or whatever the **** that name is). Isn't he the one who stepped the song? Why are you saying Tass hates you? The only person who can say that would be daman, which leads me to believe that daman stepped it instead.

Regardless, your life isn't going to come crashing down around you because your stepfile didn't make it into the queue. Worse things have happened - like cats getting abused.

If it's a good file, then submit it to the FFR database, submit it to the next StepMania DrumPack, submit wherever you want, but seriously, just shut up about Tass rejecting it because he's prejudiced. That's such a petty and ridiculous reason for Tass to reject a file and it doesn't make logical sense anyways because he accepted stargroup's files forever and I know for sure he doesn't like stargroup.

If anything, it is YOUR fault for the rejection for one of two reasons:

1. At some point, you acknowledged that daman is on that account. (Assuming Tass is prejudiced)
2. You picked a drum solo to step with no melody. Poor song choice for FFR. Period.



That would be very much appreciated. I'll get the file to you soon.

redheads the one talking right now buddy, just fyi, apparently I need to quote myself

- redhead/orangeinferno

[robertsona]

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readhead


also this different people posting **** is annoying


you're all daman to me

[stavie33]

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readhead


also this different people posting **** is annoying


you're all daman to me

And everyone on Midday's account was midday, right? If so, then feel free to consider it that way, though I'd rather you not because WE AREN'T HIM!! WE'RE HIS FRIENDS!!

PS

seriously, Tass said to stop this daman stuff so we should, I don't want to be banned

[Patashu]

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I move that a file or part of a file with good pr be referred to by the adjective 'presque' pronounced preh-sk

example: man, omw v2 is so presque, I'm jealous

[robertsona]

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Stepmania Supreme Court is now in session for the voting on of Bill 137A, suggested by Patashu

[Bluearrowll]

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,
But "good file, no to song" when we have this horrible death metal **** on FFR and Tass just chooses, for the first time in Judging history, to get rid of a file +'D BY EVERY JUDGE and say "File's fine but no to song"

FFR has some of the crappiest **** music I've ever seen in rock (WTF is up with these horrible death metal songs? This **** is sooo bad that some of my friends said they'd never play this game)

This just upsets me, it took me a long time to write this song, and it's much better than songs like:

Goodbye My Love
Amity
Brooks was here

and you have piano solo's so why not drum? Someone help me with this,

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A FILE HAS BEEN REJECTED DUE TO THE SONG AND NOT THE FILE, AND THERE'S BEEN MANY WORSE SONGS IN THE GAME

Now I'm pissed at everyone who got their crap ass death metal/screamo files in the game, you say my song sucks? What's happened to your ears? This is just my opinion though, as I hate tasteless music (I like Classical, classic rock, jazz, drum and bass, etc.)

Ok, so you really kind of offended me , and probably a few people here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with metal of any kind, and it is a genre of it's own. It's YOUR opinion whether you like something or not, and calling it trash when it's not is just trying to insult fans, band members and the step artists who made the files. There is NOTHING wrong with Erad, Reality, etc. otherwise They simply would not be in the game.

2 of those 3 songs you listed were my favourite songs when I was new to the game.

You could say any piano song is a "Piano solo". It's a musical instrument with 88 keys, there is variety. In a drum solo, a standard drum set does not have many drums, and definitely less than 88. Therefore, there's not as much variety, and these files would only consist of staircaes and jacks really, that I can see of.

Not true, any song that was not played because of no permission also met this path.

I'm sorry Stavie but this HAD to be done. And color coding to make sure each point matched it's reason.


Going to my songs now. I'm going to re submit Mourning heart with requested tweaks. Seeing how it got 2 +. and 1 + I think I have a good chance.

[kommisar[os]]

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i think a ban is to be issued...




Presque: french word also meaning quasiment or à peine si il était atteint.



almost.

[stavie33]

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to avoid ban I'll be deleting all my posts, thanks guys, real supportive, you have no idea how much effort I put into making this song, I'd like to see you guys write a better one, and to have it be called Ultimate Drum Solo of Crap is quite offensive

Also, if you didn't read Bluearrow, I said that it's my opinion, my friends and parents agree, but a genre wouldn't exist if there weren't fans out there, so I'm glad you enjoy, support your genre! I know plenty who hate classical

In my opinion it's **** music, but that's my opinion, and I don't think you should be that mad about it, but by all means be

And since it's an opinion it's not absolute, and never will be

PS

I love Erad and Reality, one of my favorite bands is Protest the Hero, but that's not the Death Metal I'm talking about, I'm just talking about those songs I listed

[Bluearrowll]

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Goodbye my Love, Amity and Brooks was here is not Death Metal. Scary Kids Scaring Kids is a screamo band. These are screamo songs.

In my opinion it's **** music,

I love Erad and Reality,

Also this is kind of contradictory. (Though with The Berzerker, you might be able to get away with industrial metal).

You should probably change your opinion to you dislike screamo.

[robertsona]

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I said that it's my opinion,

ok

my friends

ok

and parents agree

what

[stavie33]

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[COLOR="red"]Ok, so you really kind of offended me , and probably a few people here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with metal of any kind, and it is a genre of it's own. It's YOUR opinion whether you like something or not, and calling it trash when it's not is just trying to insult fans, band members and the step artists who made the files.

Originally Posted by stavie33 View Post
Now I'm pissed at everyone who got their crap ass death metal/screamo files in the game, you say my song sucks? What's happened to your ears? This is just my opinion though, as I hate tasteless music (I like Classical, classic rock, jazz, drum and bass, etc.)

yeah