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  • Coolboyrulez0
    VICES
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Aug 2006
    • 10042

    #9091
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Shashakiro
    so you prefer completely random patterns over PR patterns?

    wut
    No, if there are rolls, there are rolls, if there are trills, there are trills.
    Runnys are runnys, I do that but I do not have the file generally PR. It could occur that deep sounds are on the right and high sounds on the left so yeah there is a certain factor of randomness, I usually tend choose patterns that are fun, not PR. Like I said, I know what it takes to get accepted but I won't compromise to the judges wanting and that is why I won't have files accepted
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    • Shashakiro
      TWO THOUZAND COMBO
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2005
      • 9082

      #9092
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by -Yukari-
      It's important to know when pitch relevancy will really benefit your files. For easier files, I can't really stress how important it is. Do Not Sex to This is a freaking awesome newbie file because of the pitch relevancy. If it had been random notes, it wouldn't have been nearly as meaningful pressing those ridiculously easy notes.

      However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
      well, yes

      Generally any kind of strong melody or anything with a lot of pitch variance will work well when stepped with PR, whereas something like a constant drum beat or synth is terrible if you PR it. Those things are what index stream and the like are for. But it's not determined by the speed, since a guitar solo with 200 BPM 16ths can be stepped very well with PR...just depends on the pitch variance.

      However, blanketly refusing to use PR at all ever is a great way to never get any file you make to a song that has a strong melody accepted, sorry. And "fun" patterns are a dime a dozen and unless they go to the music in some nice way it's another way of saying "generic" patterns in my experience. There is only so much you can do with four arrows *cue Stargroup rant about solo*, and your patterns by themselves have been done before hundreds of times, but stepping them in a way that matches your particular song has likely not. This is why in the previous batch the judges all basically required PR fixes to many files, and I won't be any different in that sense.
      Last edited by Shashakiro; 08-7-2008, 03:24 PM.
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      • omgitznpv
        cohoooooon
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2005
        • 6980

        #9093
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by -Yukari-
        It's important to know when pitch relevancy will really benefit your files. For easier files, I can't really stress how important it is. Do Not Sex to This is a freaking awesome newbie file because of the pitch relevancy. If it had been random notes, it wouldn't have been nearly as meaningful pressing those ridiculously easy notes.

        However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
        not really 190 bpm 16th stream that PR can sometimes find its way to amazing cool if you know what your doing
        Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
        What's the point of using drugs anyways? I heard they help you relax but that's pretty much it. (Not talking about medicines)

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        • EnR
          Massive flaming dildos.
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2007
          • 8431

          #9094
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by -Yukari-
          However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
          GLoVE's simfiles have insanely fast solo's that are PR. Sometimes they're weird patterns, but 90% of the time its really fun.
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          • DJAirWave
            Why am I still here?
            FFR Music Producer
            • Jul 2008
            • 683

            #9095
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by -Yukari-
            However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
            Lol I used 16th streams at 180 BPM. I should stick with hi19hi19's idea and go with 32nd rolls.
            Last edited by DJAirWave; 08-7-2008, 03:21 PM.

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            • -Yukari-
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2008
              • 930

              #9096
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              Uhh, guys...

              Originally posted by -Yukari-
              However, in a 190 BPM 16th stream, pitch relevancy can lead to a really, really awkward file and end up being a complete failure.
              So, yeah, I realize that it also can turn out well. I never said it's a 100% failure. It just has to be the right song... some songs just don't work because of the meoldy.
              Originally posted by ryanisadouche
              So anyways i was thinking, what if a single miss didn't stop your combo? Instead, your combo kept going until 2 consecutive misses were made. I think this would provide a more realistic ranking system, and eliminate a lot of mashing.

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              • foilman8805
                smoke wheat hail satin
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2006
                • 5704

                #9097
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                My submitted file is very pitch relevant, and definite thanks to Yukari for educating me on pitch relevancy.

                It's piano, so you kind of have to do it regardless, and the PR makes you feel like you're playing the piano which is a cool feeling. I hope it gets in. =D

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                • EnR
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                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8431

                  #9098
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by -Yukari-
                  Uhh, guys...



                  So, yeah, I realize that it also can turn out well. I never said it's a 100% failure. It just has to be the right song... some songs just don't work because of the meoldy.
                  woops, read it wrong.
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                  • DJAirWave
                    Why am I still here?
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 683

                    #9099
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    I'm stepping my song "Deep Blue Skies" which is good song to make it PR. So I'm gonna spend some time on that one for the next batch.

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                    • foilman8805
                      smoke wheat hail satin
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 5704

                      #9100
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      You guys are going to have to excuse my inexperience here, but if I neglected to have the first 2 seconds of my file clean, will it be rejected, or will a judge remove the notes?

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                      • Commandersa1
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2344

                        #9101
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by foilman8805
                        You guys are going to have to excuse my inexperience here, but if I neglected to have the first 2 seconds of my file clean, will it be rejected, or will a judge remove the notes?
                        Probably auto-reject. It's not the judges responsibility to clean up your messes. This happened with Izzy recently when he did not take out the holds.

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                        • foilman8805
                          smoke wheat hail satin
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 5704

                          #9102
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          Well, I've noticed quite a few files in FFR that don't have the 2 second grace period.

                          I was just wondering how that would work, and it's not like removing the 6 notes in the beginning is terribly difficult...I really hope that's not an auto-reject.

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                          • ledwix
                            Giant Pi Operator
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2878

                            #9103
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            I thought the first 2 seconds would be automatically cut off by the FFR converter when it becomes a .swf, so you didn't have to worry about that to an extreme degree.

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                            • Shashakiro
                              TWO THOUZAND COMBO
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 9082

                              #9104
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              blu will the two-second silence in for those who forget to add it and get files accepted.

                              it's not like holds/mines where you're using a mechanic that's just obviously not part of the game, and it's easy to forget it, so it's all right. please do try to remember it though.
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                              Originally posted by Boogiebear
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                              • foilman8805
                                smoke wheat hail satin
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 5704

                                #9105
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                And just to clarify, this is just two seconds that doesn't have notes, not necessarily two seconds of no music, right? The former isn't a problem, but I have no idea how to do the latter.

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