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  • dean_machine
    FFR Veteran
    • Oct 2006
    • 1267

    #6526
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by stargroup100
    I'm not sure, but is it possible that the number of horrible files submitted to the batch are because of selfishness? Like, most people submit for personal gain, so they can have files in the game and be known in the community, while we're supposed to be submitting for the good of FFR.

    Maybe I'm wrong?
    I would think that would be unlikely. To be known, all you have to do is make a lot of posts, in my opinion. And I think it's obvious to everyone that we need to send in good quality files for them to have a chance in making it into FFR R1.

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    • omgitznpv
      cohoooooon
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2005
      • 6980

      #6527
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by dean_machine
      I would think that would be unlikely. To be known, all you have to do is make a lot of posts, in my opinion. And I think it's obvious to everyone that we need to send in good quality files for them to have a chance in making it into FFR R1.
      No, not always. Some people tend to be like "well i just stepped this file and i think it's not good enough but i'll try to see if i can get it in-game anyways"

      Also, pure selfishness and wanting to be known throughout the community can often spur people into sending in tons of crappy files.

      I step because 1) I have nothing to do really; kills time; 2) Trying to make the game more enjoyable; 3) It's fun.
      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
      What's the point of using drugs anyways? I heard they help you relax but that's pretty much it. (Not talking about medicines)

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      • behanjc
        stargroup & me are <3'ers
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jun 2006
        • 1546

        #6528
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        Synth

        http://www.facebook.com/BehanOfficial
        https://soundcloud.com/behanmusic/powerhouse-ep-preview-out-now

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        • eastsideman09
          poker face
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2006
          • 1746

          #6529
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          at first, i did it for the sake of getting files in.... getting known in the site...

          but now, i do it to better my file-making-abilities.... get feedback on how to make my self better, which would in turn, make the quality of sims just that much better...

          selfish drive winding up in a nonselfish result..... ish...
          Originally posted by dAnceguy117
          esm, you are a fucking legend
          Originally posted by Arntonach
          wow ur pretty
          Originally posted by MrGiggles
          caring should be a get-outable offense

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          • stargroup100
            behanjc & me are <3'ers
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Jul 2006
            • 2051

            #6530
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            I would never submit files to FFR to improve stepping skills. First of all, it's inefficient. Second, the judgment would never be detailed enough.

            I might submit files to be known, but the only reason I even want to be known is so that my opinions would be heard.
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            • eastsideman09
              poker face
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Dec 2006
              • 1746

              #6531
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              well, i HAVE been getting progressively better with sim-making.... but it might just be the gaining of experience over time... meh

              i do enjoy getting the feedback though.... and i do like contibuting to the site...
              Originally posted by dAnceguy117
              esm, you are a fucking legend
              Originally posted by Arntonach
              wow ur pretty
              Originally posted by MrGiggles
              caring should be a get-outable offense

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              • stargroup100
                behanjc & me are <3'ers
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Jul 2006
                • 2051

                #6532
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by KgZ
                I would highly doubt that a simfile would massively contribute to FFR in any way at this point.
                Generally true, but it's partially because no one is thinking outside the box.
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                • dore
                  caveman pornstar
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 6317

                  #6533
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  I just find that stepfile making is a great creative outlet. I'm not very creative in anything else other than writing (as a musician I'm a great analyzer but not a great creator). This is my way to show the world (or at least the rhythm-gaming community ) my interpretation on the music I hear.

                  EDIT
                  Originally posted by stargroup100
                  Generally true, but it's partially because no one is thinking outside the box.
                  I actually have an awesome idea for a great, original file, but I don't think the judges would accept a Splash Beats V2 of a similar difficulty as V1. I need to find a different song...
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                  • stargroup100
                    behanjc & me are <3'ers
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 2051

                    #6534
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by dore
                    I just find that stepfile making is a great creative outlet. This is my way to show the world (or at least the rhythm-gaming community ) my interpretation on the music I hear.
                    YES!

                    That is all.
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                    • jimerax
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 8185

                      #6535
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      for me, those cases.

                      1. when someone asks me to step a song.
                      2. when I want at least 1 song of the artist I've got permission for FFR.
                      3. when I find a song that I really like.

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                      • stargroup100
                        behanjc & me are <3'ers
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 2051

                        #6536
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        hehe so I did say something right then

                        also 1

                        Originally posted by KgZ
                        what exactly do you mean by that? (Do you have something in mind anyway)
                        whoa missed this sry

                        There's no way for me to describe how to think outside the box except do things differently and successfully, such as trying a new theme in a stepfile (me, hi19hi19, jimerax, and a few others have pioneered several). Don't step dumb songs that will likely be abused by everyone in the database or will make generic charts, and don't make generic charts.

                        While I'm at it, EW's files a pretty overrated. Like SD, he's decent, but his files lack anything note-worthy. Step outside your comfort zone and try something new.
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                        • Genocide101
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 207

                          #6537
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by stargroup100
                          hehe so I did say something right then

                          also 1



                          whoa missed this sry

                          There's no way for me to describe how to think outside the box except do things differently and successfully, such as trying a new theme in a stepfile (me, hi19hi19, jimerax, and a few others have pioneered several). Don't step dumb songs that will likely be abused by everyone in the database or will make generic charts, and don't make generic charts.

                          While I'm at it, EW's files a pretty overrated. Like SD, he's decent, but his files lack anything note-worthy. Step outside your comfort zone and try something new.
                          ... lol , look what you've done Tass he thinks he's a pioneer now a great god, an almighty ffr step charting master, theres only 4 arrows your arse you can slow down the bpm you can make it faster at different spots theres not a whole lot you can do, you just follow the rythm of the music and if something cool happens well so be it, w.e i think you've let this (i now have songs on ffr and ppl told me they really like them) get 2 your head, i give everyone equal respect wheather the've made a simfile for ffr or not. i don't see how you can think outside the box when your given pre-rendered tools and options anyways cheers and all.

                          Geno

                          PS. hows the judging for that last batch coming along, it's been a long long time, getting somewhat restless.

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                          • hypercore
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 178

                            #6538
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by KgZ
                            Honestly, I highly doubt anyone submits anything just for the sake and good of FFR
                            I would

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                            • stargroup100
                              behanjc & me are <3'ers
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2051

                              #6539
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Genocide101
                              ... lol , look what you've done Tass he thinks he's a pioneer now a great god, an almighty ffr step charting master, theres only 4 arrows your arse you can slow down the bpm you can make it faster at different spots theres not a whole lot you can do, you just follow the rythm of the music and if something cool happens well so be it, w.e i think you've let this (i now have songs on ffr and ppl told me they really like them) get 2 your head, i give everyone equal respect wheather the've made a simfile for ffr or not. i don't see how you can think outside the box when your given pre-rendered tools and options anyways cheers and all.

                              Geno

                              PS. hows the judging for that last batch coming along, it's been a long long time, getting somewhat restless.
                              I'm a pioneer of certain things, but certainly not a "great god, an almighty ffr step charting master". If your idea of making stepfiles is so simple, then you'll never get better past a certain point. Making simfiles is a creative outlet, and it takes much skill, planning, and visualization to make a file, not to mention a good grasp on music interpretation anyway.

                              I'll start with a simple example. Let's take {Rose}, a popular file and easy to analyze. Most people just place random jumpstream and a random index 16th stream, sometimes pitch-relevant. To "think outside the box" you could adding jumps to every 4th note to accent the bass drum, or even layering the strings with freezes (obviously not for FFR, but for SM it could be good). There, you've done something most people wouldn't do, and if you executed it correctly, it could be a fun file.

                              That's just one example. There are tons of technicalities to look out for when making a file, such as climax theory, difficulty, consistency, choice of voicing, layering technique, flow, song choice, sync, etc. Even if you think you've mastered one area there's a whole new way to step you've never tried.

                              Just because someone likes your file doesn't mean it's good. Just because someone hates your file doesn't mean it's bad. People hate Secrets and Lies, but it's an incredible file. People like Alpha Helix, but it's a horrible file.

                              I have no idea why you would complain about my ego because I've been bitching for a long time now. I know what I'm talking about, and the only reason I'm so aggressive is because this way I'll be noticed and it will be that much easier for me to help the site as well as other people.

                              I bitch because I care, and if I don't have a good grasp of something I would never push my opinions and help so strongly. Hope you understand, please don't think I'm egotistical just to be an ass.

                              Good day,
                              stargroup :P
                              Last edited by stargroup100; 12-10-2007, 02:12 PM.
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                              • hypercore
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 178

                                #6540
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                best... thing... ever... posted...

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