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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #17416
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by jimerax
    I'm not against having multiple difficulties for a song in the game at all, just don't want a .dwi/.sm that has multiple difficulties (except for resubmissions). Submitting them as separated files with [Light] or [Heavy] is ok.
    Will do.

    EDIT: what's with all the new people asking to be judges?
    Last edited by TC_Halogen; 01-4-2011, 09:45 PM.

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    • i love you
      Live a wonderful life~
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2006
      • 7313

      #17417
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by jimerax
      In previous judges, Kommi, V4N, samurai haven't responded yet (buizel said he won't do this time). and I'll be a backup if there're enough judges.
      kommisar = Probably missed this thread

      Vote4nixon = Probably missed this thread since he's so caught up with Turdstyle

      Samurai = He quit the game randomly so someone need to cover for him (Arch0wl would be nice imo)
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      • DossarLX ODI
        Batch Manager
        Game Manager
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2008
        • 14999

        #17418
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        Yeah samurai most likely won't be back for a while unfortunately
        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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        • Niala
          (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2007
          • 1697

          #17419
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          Will do.

          EDIT: what's with all the new people volunteering to be judges?
          Fix'd.

          I knew we had a couple of judges that had quit, or in some cases, "quit," so I suspected the might have needed more help. I'm not the most experienced, but I'm not a bad stepartist either. I figured throwing my name out there couldn't hurt, supposing JX was having trouble finding more judges... Sorry if I'm stepping on toes.

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          • jimerax
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Nov 2003
            • 8185

            #17420
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            ap will be pretty nice one for sure but I guess he has a lot of other things to do =/

            also, samurai and v4n won't judge this time. still waiting for a reply from kommi.

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            • bmah
              shots FIRED
              Profile Moderator
              FFR Simfile Author
              Global Moderator
              • Oct 2003
              • 8448

              #17421
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              I'll be frank, but I don't know what ap (plus a bunch of other people listed here) would offer in regards to file judging.

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              • One Winged Angel
                Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Mar 2007
                • 10837

                #17422
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                man, ap stepped smudge

                enough said

                edit: to be completely honest, I think I'd make a pretty good judge even though no one's really played any of the files I've made...if you guys ever run short and are desperate for judges, give me a holler


                Originally posted by ilikexd
                i want to be cucked by cirno

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                • i love you
                  Live a wonderful life~
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 7313

                  #17423
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  I don't mind who judges to be honest but to those who are offering to become a judge, make sure you're able to do the following things:

                  • Being able to distinguish the numerous amount of errors in a file.
                  • Being able to step a simfile decently without help.
                  • Knowing the FFR judging system well and knowing how to rate files.

                  EDIT: Also, having experience judging for a legit pack of some sort is a bonus

                  Things that would AUTO Quality you as a judge IMO:

                  • If you're a Light/Dark Chancellor and you know how to find errors in a file.
                  • If you have judged for FFR in the past. (Before the site went down)
                  • If you are known to step good files on FFR or Stepmania and know about the FFR judging system.

                  As long as you have the following, I would think you're qualified enough to become a FFR judge.

                  Also, here's advice to those new people becoming judges for this batch and for future batches: Make sure to play the file first BEFORE looking in the editor. Why do i say this? Well, it's because when you play a file first, you will be able to tell if the file was fun or boring and you might even be able to find a few issues within the file itself just by playing it. If you go straight to the editor and judged the file without even playing it, there's a good chance that you will give the file a lower rating than it really is because you only based your rating on just the errors you found in the editor rather then rating the file by BOTH what you played and looked at in the editor.

                  Thing you should be aware of when judging a file IMO: (There's probably more i haven't stated)

                  • Do not reject a file mainly because of song choice. If you don't like the song, get over it. Don't use that as your main reason why you rejected a file. (Also, don't be surprised if you get raged at later when you do this)

                  • Tell the user where the main errors are located, don't just say that the file has errors and just leave it as that.

                  • Judge every file equally even if you think it's a joke file. Take it seriously. (I learned this the hard way)

                  • Try not to be an asshole when you judge a file. For example: "Wow dude, your file sucks balls. I could make a file better then this with my eyes closed..." or "WTF WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU MAKE MEASURE 69 A RAINBOW TRILL? NEVER STEP AGAIN" *Looks at Kory*

                  This is just what I think, feel free to comment/flame about it if you wish
                  Last edited by i love you; 01-5-2011, 01:30 AM.
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                  • who_cares973
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 15407

                    #17424
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by bmah
                    I'll be frank, but I don't know what ap (plus a bunch of other people listed here) would offer in regards to file judging.
                    yep. Only person id really want as a judge is arch but only because id like to see his take on files.


                    Also owa I didn't even know you stepped files wtf mang let me get my hands on those

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                    • ichliebekase
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • May 2006
                      • 3213

                      #17425
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      Knowing the judging system is an iffy thing to have put up there since there's been so much talk and consideration about changing it. But I have been reading up on old file reviews, I read deeply into my own reviews to see what I do need to look for, and I watched what a lot of judges did.

                      The checklist you gave Byron was actually pretty good. Most of it I already took into consideration, some of it I learned anew. As Jimerax said, we're backup judges for the time being. Even if I don't get to be a judge in this batch, I'll still be sitting down with other reviews to see what all gets done. I have a lot of time on my hands :P

                      For those that don't know, I've got about 8+ files in DF's engine so it's not like I've only stepped a few things before. I didn't get anything else except my resubmission in for this batch because I didn't get the permissions I wanted :/ but next batch I'm looking to get more in there.
                      Glorious Morning - Misc, level 48
                      We Will Fly - Dance 2, level 53
                      =.The Ocean.= - Dance 2, level 56, collab with krunkykai22
                      Garden Party - Dance, level 38

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                      • who_cares973
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 15407

                        #17426
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        Lol 8 files is still very little considering almost all the judges have 70+ files made

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                        • ichliebekase
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • May 2006
                          • 3213

                          #17427
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          So? That wasn't the point of me saying how many I had. It was to point out that I did have some and where they were. Please stop getting on my case Carlos.
                          Glorious Morning - Misc, level 48
                          We Will Fly - Dance 2, level 53
                          =.The Ocean.= - Dance 2, level 56, collab with krunkykai22
                          Garden Party - Dance, level 38

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                          • TC_Halogen
                            Rhythm game specialist.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 19376

                            #17428
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Niala
                            Fix'd.

                            I knew we had a couple of judges that had quit, or in some cases, "quit," so I suspected the might have needed more help. I'm not the most experienced, but I'm not a bad stepartist either. I figured throwing my name out there couldn't hurt, supposing JX was having trouble finding more judges... Sorry if I'm stepping on toes.
                            Oh, I didn't mean to come across that way -- I'm just surprised that all of a sudden, people feel like they want to help out. I could care less if people decide they want to volunteer, it's ultimately JX's decision to pick who he wants. I personally think you'd make a great backup judge (or fill-in for a primary, if spots are open).

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                            • Xayphon
                              sausage
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1630

                              #17429
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              Please, don't let this end in a drama again...

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                              • Plan_Bsk81127
                                snooches
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6420

                                #17430
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                Thing is about being a judge(and I was told this back when I offered) is that it doesnt matter how much time on your hands or whatever doesnt mean you would make a good judge. Anyone on this site could easily open then editor, play through and give their thoughts on the file, but it isnt that easy. People who can barely step a file themselves really shouldnt be judges because they yet to know how to step correctly themselves let alone point about what others are doing wrong. Having files on DF isnt anything to use as backup for having files. They're very lenient with judging and files are easily accepted there. You can tell since many people from DF submitted their files here in the last batch and a good chunk were rejected. With judges like Halo I can see how he judges differently between the two, over there he is pretty light on files, he comes to judge for FFR and he tightens up a bit because FFR is a little more ancy about what files get in. They are not 100% going for the fun factor in a file like DF's intentions might be. All in all to be a judge basically need to follow that list Rebound posted. We already had a few people that imo that snuck away with being a judge when they shouldnt have, really dont need more. Even being a backup and not knowing what you are doing isnt good because if you end up having to take action for someone who didnt do their notes, you are not going to be any help at all.

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