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  • Shikari
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2010
    • 2055

    #16
    Re: I've a question

    Back in the days, FFR used to make money with the game, via subscriptions. You can't have an org making money with other people's work, especially musical artists.

    Originally posted by gold stinger
    Shikari for resident profile artist

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    • Travis_Flesher
      Champion
      • May 2011
      • 791

      #17
      Re: I've a question

      The copyright sniffers send letters to the internet service providers requesting that they remove content or legal action will be taken. But what legal action is taken? If the internet freedom fighters took a stand it's not as if physical harm will be done to them. The worse case scenario is that a militia comes and basically rips the cords out of your computer but cmon folks if we all united together we are smarter than them. They need us dude don't you understand?
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      • Mourningfall
        • Jan 2011
        • 1627

        #18
        Re: I've a question

        Originally posted by Travis_Flesher
        I'm smarter than a room full of lawyers.
        you're gonna have to have a little more specificity in your diet if you wanna flex your intellect duder

        how big is the room?

        how big are the lawyers?

        what area of law are they practicing?

        we need to know these things if we're ever going to get an accurate delineation of your intelligence

        Originally posted by Travis_Flesher
        They need us dude don't you understand?
        I don't understand, but I like fairy tales so tell me more about internet freedom fighters and derogation of law
        Last edited by Mourningfall; 08-7-2016, 02:59 AM.

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        • XelNya
          [Kaho]
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2012
          • 3368

          #19
          Re: I've a question

          I'm pretty happy that now days, if I want an album of music, I can listen to it on like youtube (not through red or their shit music app) before I buy it. Or, if I can't afford to get it, I can again, listen to it another way that some-what supports the artist.

          We live in an age where honestly, unless you have a shit data-plan you don't really NEED to download music illegally.

          Even if it's a hell of a lot more convenient / less annoying to do so. (Because seriously, fuck ads.)

          What's more concerning is the cost of good internet and mobile data plans before they start slowing your connection down despite the fact you / your family pay for UNLIMITED use of the data.

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          • ilikexd
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2006
            • 3208

            #20
            Re: I've a question

            Originally posted by XelNya
            We live in an age where honestly, unless you have a shit data-plan you don't really NEED to download music illegally.
            Or if you actually listen to a lot of music and aren't obscenely rich.

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            • Travis_Flesher
              Champion
              • May 2011
              • 791

              #21
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              Originally posted by Mourningfall
              how big are the lawyers?
              what area of law are they practicing?
              law
              how big are the lawyers?
              Small which is why they flinch when you look at them.

              what area of law are they practicing?
              The problem area that attempts to maintain the status quo of the upper middle class by threatening legal suit on citizens who practice the opposing law known as freedom of information.

              law
              Law is a loose term that describes a phenomena in which the the ruling class threatens to punish others every time their self esteem is compromised.
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              • MarioNintendo
                Expect delays.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Mar 2008
                • 4177

                #22
                Re: I've a question

                Travis flesher

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                • Rapta
                  🡸Index🡻Is🡹Fun!🡺
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1948

                  #23
                  Re: I've a question

                  A revolution would not work right now nor would it be sparked with this discussion thread. My opinion.
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                  • Travis_Flesher
                    Champion
                    • May 2011
                    • 791

                    #24
                    re

                    Another form of the word revolution is revolt. Take off one letter and you have evolution.
                    To revolve around something would be to orbit around it. Take away the prefixes and suffixes
                    and you are left with 'vo' which bears a striking resemblance to 'va', a conjugated form of
                    a latin word meaning to go. In any instance this word conjurs ideas of action and movement.
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                    • botchi246
                      Keepin it Real since '05
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 608

                      #25
                      Re: I've a question

                      I volunteer as tribute

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                      • Dinglesberry
                        longing
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2679

                        #26
                        Re: I've a question

                        I don't want to spend any time on this (EDIT: I failed) because everyone knows why we can't have mainstream songs and stuff, but to add:

                        #1. those websites for mp3s you are talking about, they are around because they don't host the MP3 themselves - they are just content scraping bots that scour the web for mp3s and provide you an easy way to search them, which is why they don't get shut down.

                        Have you ever seen those blogs that are literally just copy and paste content from forum posts and such? Or the youtube "mirror" sites that just embed youtube videos on their own page? Content Scrapers: https://blog.kissmetrics.com/content-scrapers/

                        #2. It's a dumb idea, simply because it would piss off the wrong people. You say:

                        Are you guys some grassroots organization that doesn't use big name copyrights or something?
                        You realise that the second we start stealing songs and such, we put the final nail in the coffin and force ourselves to permanently become grassroots?

                        I would argue that a huge goal of FFR, and the FFR developers, is to get the game to be popular and thriving - I would be extremely happy if when I went to the FFR site it said "14,618 playing now" like Osu! does - the fact of the matter is though, if we are pissing people off and breaking copyright, we directly cause this to never be able to happen - and once it does start happening (us becoming more popular), the chances to lose it all are very high.

                        That being said, having big name artists or whatnot would be good for publicity.. I think a big part of what helped FFR back in the day was the artists widgets and such, people putting them on their myspace (such a different time frame/generation, dating myself here lol, RIP) - having songs now is nice, but the permission acceptance ends up being a nice email back "sure! You can put my song in your game, just make sure to give credit", which is great and all, but could you imagine if someone like Skrillex or whatever (dating myself yet again, no idea if he's even popular now) tweeted "Going to have my new song in Flash Flash Revolution!" and then linked the widget so you can play it in the tweet.


                        I don't want to spend any time on this
                        Already failed, but one thing I really find lacking in the 4k game community is nice video content - I don't mean to hate on the top players who post amazing scores and videos, but there isn't really much there unfortunately in terms of quality content to watch - I'm talking meme tier shit, commentary videos, videos showing off FFR etc. I really, really enjoy this video and wish this guy would have made more FFR stuff - if this wouldn't get new people trying out the game, I don't know what would:



                        When I consider that for the other game I primarily play (League of Legends), I could potentially spend the entire day watching new content (as in uploaded that day) of interesting LoL videos, trolling videos etc, makes me kind of sad to think about FFR :/ I guess the gameplay doesn't lend itself to videos of this kind, but even something like a stream highlight video with funny reactions, the player getting shocked but unexpected crazy patterns, reacting to hitting something insane etc, sort of like gosu's videos:



                        I'm completely rambling at this point, but the main thing is that we want this game to be popular and respectable, and stealing songs and avoiding copyright is an ass backwards way to go about doing it.
                        Last edited by Dinglesberry; 08-7-2016, 11:17 AM.

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                        • Travis_Flesher
                          Champion
                          • May 2011
                          • 791

                          #27
                          re

                          Originally posted by botchi246
                          I volunteer as tribute
                          To volunteer is another word using the root 'vol'. It means to give one's self willingly as there is no 'value'.
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                          • Dinglesberry
                            longing
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 2679

                            #28
                            Re: re

                            Originally posted by Travis_Flesher
                            To volunteer is another word using the root 'vol'. It means to give one's self willingly as there is no 'value'.
                            Oh my days, I can't believe I wrote more than a sentence for this thread.

                            Legal good! Illegal bad! This how is!!

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                            • Travis_Flesher
                              Champion
                              • May 2011
                              • 791

                              #29
                              re

                              Originally posted by Dinglesberry
                              could you imagine if someone like Skrillex or whatever (dating myself yet again, no idea if he's even popular now) tweeted "Going to have my new song in Flash Flash Revolution!" and then linked the widget so you can play it in the tweet.
                              dingleberry I read your whole post I'm just quoting this part. If we had some big names like Skrillex,
                              Justin Timberlake, (don't really know who's popular right now, but whoever) Rihanna, Jay-Z, Britney Spears. Once we
                              get a bunch of those guys it starts to become less and less likely to get shutdown because of mass appeal do you follow?

                              Furthermore, I believe it is certainly in the artists' best interests to have their materials on this website. Sharing is caring and whether or not they are 'getting paid'
                              for it is not important because trust me they have enough money and people that care about them that they will never need nor want. To freely produce, share,
                              make, enjoy material is vastly better then appropriating funds.
                              Last edited by Travis_Flesher; 08-7-2016, 11:49 AM.
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                              • MarioNintendo
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                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 4177

                                #30
                                Re: I've a question

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