some index things

[Ziemniax]

Re: some index things

He is legit, jesus christ.
Look at his video of Lolit Speed, at around 3200 combo until around 4000. He is doing some of the craziest whirling index patterns, and just look at how his hands move. These are exactly the moves needed. On correct speed.

Do we need to introduce him to o!m to play Empress SC where no judge changes are allowed?

[Dynam0]

Re: some index things

We must obtain the gold-wrapped original copy of stepmania that is only reserved for bullshit claims of the highest order, to be played in the highest court of stepmania with the right and honourable judge glove presiding and that is where justice will prevail

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: some index things

I have an original copy of sm 3.9 with the original .smzip extension still intact. I let you guys use it if you want

[ATTang]

Re: some index things

hot thread

[ATTang]

Re: some index things

Do we need to introduce him to o!m to play Empress SC where no judge changes are allowed?

maybe ... well, it would awesome confirmation or showcase for him

[choof]

Re: some index things

Choof, you obviously don't know how index works so you don't really have that much legitimate grounds to say how much harder a song can get on index, js.

since when did I need to play a style to tell if someone's judge windows are screwed up lmao

Also, have fun proving he's BS when I've witnessed his progress for years.

I already stated why I'm pretty sure he's bs and he hasn't done anything to change my stance

[choof]

Re: some index things

He is legit, jesus christ.

no he's not

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: some index things

i can't see my signature but is it relevant to this thread. unless i changed it i feel like its relevant to this thread

[tosh]

Re: some index things

since when did I need to play a style to tell if someone's judge windows are screwed up lmao

Etienne is talking about the impact that rates can have on a file on index compared to spread (which is something you and I talked about on skype).

Specifically your comment about Blue Planet 1.2 high B being weird compared to 1.1 quad when in reality it makes perfect sense because it's index.

[monadoboy]

Re: some index things

same

[PolygonEater]

Re: some index things

since when did I need to play a style to tell if someone's judge windows are screwed up lmao


I already stated why I'm pretty sure he's bs and he hasn't done anything to change my stance

As far as I can tell from his videos, there is no blatant ini hacking. That is, there is no proof he has at least 1 frame or more increased judgement window. Feel free to go on his youtube, download the 60fps videos, and find proof with a timestamp though. You can do the math, you have the judgement windows he's supposedly using on the video.

The argument of playstyle is that you seem to be specifically claiming Blue Planet 1.2 is a bs score. It only takes 10% of a speed increase to get dunked on index when you're trying to go faster than you really can. However you don't seem to weigh Etienne's opinion on the matter very heavily despite him being able to index quite well.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: some index things

To get an idea on how much of a difference rates make on index vs. spread I'll put this down:

Index
X Soldier Storm 1.0 rate (260 BPM) - AAA, 30 perfects
X Soldier Storm 1.1 rate (286 BPM) - Mid A
X Soldier Storm 1.2 rate (312 BPM) - Low B (barely passing)

Spread
Disregard 1.0 rate (300 BPM) - Blackflag
Disregard 1.1 rate (330 BPM) - 12g 1 cb
Disregard 1.2 rate (360 BPM) - 41g 5 cbs
Disregard 1.3 rate (390 BPM) - Anywhere from high 40's to low 70's greats, at least 10 cbs

On spread you can still AA a file on 1.2 rate depending on if the patterns are spread out well enough, etc. on index however this isn't the case. A song that is 294 BPM increased by 0.1 rate is a ~30 BPM increase, which is tremendous as you don't have the leeway on index that spread gives you if you aren't fast enough or can't contain the speed for long.

[Staiain]

Re: some index things

i've been on the verge of quitting for the past few weeks because some fuckface follower of yours keeps harassing me so uh, fuck you
(note: someone challenged me on how legit this was so i edited for honesty)

I don't like that you're giving me blame for this, I can't control what others say outside my chat, I literally encourage people to be nice and enjoy the game in my stream and this isn't something that I had anything to do with

[choof]

Re: some index things

To get an idea on how much of a difference rates make on index vs. spread I'll put this down:

Index
X Soldier Storm 1.0 rate (260 BPM) - AAA, 30 perfects
X Soldier Storm 1.1 rate (286 BPM) - Mid A
X Soldier Storm 1.2 rate (312 BPM) - Low B (barely passing)

Spread
Disregard 1.0 rate (300 BPM) - Blackflag
Disregard 1.1 rate (330 BPM) - 12g 1 cb
Disregard 1.2 rate (360 BPM) - 41g 5 cbs
Disregard 1.3 rate (390 BPM) - Anywhere from high 40's to low 70's greats, at least 10 cbs

On spread you can still AA a file on 1.2 rate depending on if the patterns are spread out well enough, etc. on index however this isn't the case. A song that is 294 BPM increased by 0.1 rate is a ~30 BPM increase, which is tremendous as you don't have the leeway on index that spread gives you if you aren't fast enough or can't contain the speed for long.

you were bs at one point too breh, don't get too excited about defending someone else who is also bs

tosh and I talked on skype about score discrepancies. I'll concede that point, but the issue remains that he's still bsing scores using ini and judge changes

[choof]

Re: some index things

As far as I can tell from his videos, there is no blatant ini hacking. That is, there is no proof he has at least 1 frame or more increased judgement window. Feel free to go on his youtube, download the 60fps videos, and find proof with a timestamp though. You can do the math, you have the judgement windows he's supposedly using on the video.

I already did this
the screenshot that hayden posted in the other thread was actually my screenshot

I find it really fucking suspect that after getting called out, he plays a bunch of shit on another version of stepmania and does not show judge

the blue planet 1.1 quad was on sm5
the scores in this thread are on a sm 3.9 fork

the theme that he uses in sm5 shows judge/life in-game
I don't think there has ever been an sm3.9 theme that does the same thing
which means he is safe to show ini and post videos with his 3.9 build

the only way I would say that he's not bs is if he posts a video of his ini and judge of sm5, or his ini and judge of sm3.9, and then proceeds to get a score roughly equivalent to a quad on blue planet 1.1

otherwise, the evidence I found in his last video, paired with the blatant refusal to show anything compelling in these vids, makes him out to be faking scores